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| hank Member Since: 12 Sep 2016 Location: South Wales Posts: 2288   
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There are tiny bulb holders and incandescent bulbs behind. Replace for LED
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14th Mar 2019 12:43pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20222 
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Does LED work in the Puma though?
If so, what sucesss did you have and what type? The clock I have issues with too, my bulb has gone in it. You can get them on eBay, I have one but have not fitted it yet. I’m presuming it isn’t difficult seeing as it’s a little bayonet thing NEVER SURRENDER! ⛽️🛢️👨🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧 |
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14th Mar 2019 1:06pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816  
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LED bulbs with correct fitting will work. But not necessarily good result as their light output is very directional. Years ago there was a big discussion and interest here on the forum to replace dash incandescent bulbs by leds, but results were not very good.
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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14th Mar 2019 1:12pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17285
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I briefly tried LEDs in the Puma heater controls - it was hopeless, they were far too directional! So it was back to "heritage" bulbs.
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14th Mar 2019 1:17pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20222
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Yes, I can imagine hence mentioning probably giving a patchy light and dark spots appearance.
These ‘hertitage’ incandescent bulbs are about the only filament incandescent bulbs in mine at all left. They do seem to be rather keen to die off after not too long as well! NEVER SURRENDER! ⛽️🛢️👨🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧 |
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14th Mar 2019 1:21pm |
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| hank Member Since: 12 Sep 2016 Location: South Wales Posts: 2288
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I know what you mean but I had good results with these on my TDCi. They have a number of LED’s so emit light in all directions
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14th Mar 2019 2:54pm |
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| UtilityTruck Member Since: 09 Jan 2014 Location: Oxford Posts: 463
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Thanks for the replies so far. Does the clock have more than one bulb? I guess that would explain the uneven colour if it has two or more bulbs.
What about the bit the light actually shines through? I suppose the only fix is a new one, or are there aftermarket parts people have fitted? P.s. love the ‘heritage’ bulbs! 2014 Keswick Utility 2.2 |
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14th Mar 2019 3:03pm |
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| HardCharger Member Since: 03 Mar 2013 Location: Manila Posts: 727  
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Do you have any photos of your LEDs in action? I noticed that these are white, shouldn't they be green? |
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15th Mar 2019 2:04am |
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| smb Member Since: 15 Jan 2013 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1232 
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Does anyone have a full list of all the bulbs to complete the illumination of the dash/interior ie type/figment and quantity?
I seem to remember a forum member from many years ago not only replaced all the bulbs, but also added ones into door handles, foot wells,etc.... could have been k9f, but unsure |
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15th Mar 2019 2:14am |
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| hank Member Since: 12 Sep 2016 Location: South Wales Posts: 2288
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I don’t have photos in afraid. I am away from home at the moment, I will try to get some when I’m home in a few weeks. They are white but there are green filters on the dash parts that are lit so the light comes through green I would describe them as factory appearance, slightly brighter but maintenance free > 110 XS Double Cab |
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15th Mar 2019 9:08am |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20222
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Hank - Interesting - Those are SMD chip type which are pretty good. I presume their draw is less than 1.2w each a single type standard 'heritage' filament incandescent bulbs.
IIRC the IPAC. (Instrument cluster) has LED SMD chips as standard. The number of how many bulb holders there is I don't know, I know there is quite a few there. I'd say at least 6x minimum. The clock I can't see what can be done as this is a bulb with a green sleeve cover on, it has the green dial face screen too but I haven't tried to swap it at all yet to see what I'm dealing with. SMB - That may well have been me as I have all of that and still do, although other members have had similar before too. (Cannot remember who.) My system in that respect mimics factory fit lighting control and it's been 100% reliable from the day I fitted it. It is however critically important you don't exceed the standard fit current draw but with LED's you'd really need to go something to even get near anyway. 
This is of course OT from the OP's thread. NEVER SURRENDER! ⛽️🛢️👨🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧 |
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15th Mar 2019 7:59pm |
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| UtilityTruck Member Since: 09 Jan 2014 Location: Oxford Posts: 463
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Not OT at all, I’m trying to tart up the look of the factory dash a bit. Might look to replace the bulbs with LEDs at the same time 2014 Keswick Utility 2.2
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15th Mar 2019 10:38pm |
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| smb Member Since: 15 Jan 2013 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1232
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Sorry UtilityTruck for highjacking your thread, but Steve(customsteve), do you have a link to your build thread as I remember it being very impressive and was always threatening to have a go myself based around your work.
Many thanks Steve |
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16th Mar 2019 11:00pm |
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| OsloBlue Member Since: 14 Jul 2018 Location: Essex Posts: 822 
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509Ts for speedo - go for a three or more chip bulb, single chip has too much light loss
T5s for fuel, clock, temp and rev gauges, also temp controls but the light is too thin for such a broad light The 509Ts are a bitch to get in, thin but flat (unangled) tweezers, plenty of pressure & twist - it took me three hours to do two bulbs https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-x-12v-3-LED-5...2749.l2649 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10x-T5-286-5050...2749.l2649 I'm on IG: https://www.instagram.com/osloblue42/ Current: TD5 '110 "Lucinda" Thread here: https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic62562.html  |
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17th Mar 2019 10:02am |
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