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MartinK



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Orkney Grey
My 2011 110 USW is the lower bracket--- Classed as "Commercial"
I do worry about this though, as there's conflicting advice as to whether this also means I am bound to "Commercial" speed limits - bit of a worry on A-Roads with Average Speed Cameras...
So there may be a downside Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's)
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LandRoverAnorak



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No, you're not. This is a misconception that's come up several times on here. Defenders are classes as dual purpose vehicles and, as such, are bound by regular car speed limits. Darren

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Post #763346 14th Mar 2019 9:08am
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Markez79



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Bluest wrote:
blimbug wrote:
Which 2.4’s aren’t in the £500 band? Commercial ones?


Early 2.4 Station Wagons I think.


Mines a 2007 2.4 TDCI Station Wagon and unfortunately my road tax is GBP 500 (ish) as well....... Sad
Post #763358 14th Mar 2019 10:26am
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G4UJS



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Zermatt Silver
mines 110 CSW 2008..... £550 Sad
Post #763361 14th Mar 2019 10:43am
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Merlin



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Does that mean that on the V5c the category is either Private or Commercial? Peter
Post #763366 14th Mar 2019 11:09am
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JOW240725



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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey
blackwolf wrote:
2.4 DCPU and DCHCPU are N1 as well.


2012 2.2 110SW also N1 just for the record. James
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MY1990 110 200TDi SW beautifully faded Portofino Red - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post743641.html#743641
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Post #763371 14th Mar 2019 11:33am
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ickle



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France 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Alpine White
mines a late 2007 110 CSW …. £270 go figure! Very Happy
Post #763379 14th Mar 2019 11:51am
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Swine&Small



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Ours is a 2015 2.2 and the tax is £250 Question 1983 Series 3 Pick up in Marine Blue
1967 Morris Traveller
1966 Morris Convertible
2012 VW T5 Camper
Quod Abundat Non Obstat.
Post #763380 14th Mar 2019 11:55am
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rockster57



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Zermatt Silver
LandRoverAnorak wrote:
No, you're not. This is a misconception that's come up several times on here. Defenders are classes as dual purpose vehicles and, as such, are bound by regular car speed limits.


A bit off the OP’s original thread but possibly worthy of mention - NOT all Defenders fall within the legal definition of “dual purpose vehicle” as they have an unladen weight exceeding 2040kg. Such excluded vehicles will be subject to the lower light goods speed limits.
Post #763382 14th Mar 2019 11:59am
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
It is true that to be a DPV the vehicle's unladen weight must not excess 2 tons (2040kg), but I bet you can't tell me of a single standard Defender built this century which has an unladen weight in excess of 2040kg.

All the standard configurations including 130 wheelbase models are under 2040kg ULW based on JLR figures.
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Merlin wrote:
Does that mean that on the V5c the category is either Private or Commercial? Peter


No, if it is N1 is will say "N1 Light Goods" irrespective of body style. If it is M1 it will say something like "M1 Diesel Car".

I don't think that the V5 has ever had anything as straightforward as a "category" and private or commercial.
Post #763402 14th Mar 2019 12:36pm
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Swine&Small



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My 2015 90" V5C states
Body type...Light 4x4 Utility
Vehicle category...N1
Taxation Class...Light Goods Vehicle
Tax £250
just for clarification
Thumbs Up 1983 Series 3 Pick up in Marine Blue
1967 Morris Traveller
1966 Morris Convertible
2012 VW T5 Camper
Quod Abundat Non Obstat.


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Post #763403 14th Mar 2019 12:41pm
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smb



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
My 2010 110” 2.4
V5C states:
Body type...Estate
Vehicle category...N1
Taxation Class...Light Goods Vehicle
Registered.....30-07-2010
Was told at purchase to be one of the first to be in the lower Tax rate. How true I don’t know, but maybe others have older ones with low tax
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rockster57



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Zermatt Silver
blackwolf wrote:
It is true that to be a DPV the vehicle's unladen weight must not excess 2 tons (2040kg), but I bet you can't tell me of a single standard Defender built this century which has an unladen weight in excess of 2040kg.

All the standard configurations including 130 wheelbase models are under 2040kg ULW based on JLR figures.


Hi Blackwolf,

I can’t find any official unladen weight figures from Land Rover. I’ve only been able to google up this.....


Click image to enlarge


As you can see, the quoted weights include a 68kg driver with 7kg of luggage and 90% fuel load. Not certain but I think the 110s and 130s have a fuel capacity of 75 litres. If this is correct then the variants I’ve highlighted in the photo are the ones whose unladen weight may exceed 2040kg.
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
If you calculate the weight of the driver, fuel, tools & spare wheel, etc, and derive the ULW from the KW, you'll find those come out under.

You may well be over if you have a 110 SW with winch, cage, and roofrack though.
Post #763485 14th Mar 2019 7:22pm
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