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stuckinmud

Member Since: 23 Jan 2013
Location: monmouthshire
Posts: 7

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Bonatti Grey

Headlights coming on with no key in ignition.

Just got home tonight switched everything off and realised headlights were still illuminated even without key in ignition. After fiddling with headlight stalk and indicator stalk they went off. Checked outside 5 mins later to find they had re-illuminated but went off after another 3 mins. Have read a lot on here about dim/dip relay and indicator stalk / headlight stalk problems, but cannot understand how the lights have managed to bypass the ignition. is there any function of the headlights that doesnt require the ignition to be on eg main beam flash or anything on the alarm system?
many thanks for any help offered!

13th Sep 2018 10:06pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20355

Is there an aftermarket loom fitted such as Boomslang or Land Reiziger? $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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13th Sep 2018 10:39pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17373

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

I seem to recall that the flash function works with no key in the ignition.

13th Sep 2018 10:54pm

Cupboard

Member Since: 21 Mar 2014
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 2971

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Corris Grey

The flash on mine definitely works without the key.

14th Sep 2018 9:50am

andydef90

Member Since: 09 Feb 2015
Location: yorkshire
Posts: 617

2014 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey

sounds like there a issue with your stalk yes they flash high beam with no key but should not stay illuminated . I am not sure if they can be stripped down to clean a good spray with wd40 may help

14th Sep 2018 10:53am

stuckinmud

Member Since: 23 Jan 2013
Location: monmouthshire
Posts: 7

thanks for replies i have ordered a new stalk and see if that solves the problem. what i couldnt fathom was the random switching on and off when the vehicle was parked. I shouldnt be at all surprised to find an earwig or spider living in there!

14th Sep 2018 4:40pm

Eduardo

Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Región Metropolitana
Posts: 2110

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey

Did you check the headlight relay that activates the headlights only if the contact is on?
I had some issues with this relay in the past...

Regards Eduardo

MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64'
MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo"

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14th Sep 2018 4:58pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20355

My guess is a contacts on the stalk is slightly contacting one another, possibly slightly bent or similar event.

Never knew that the flash worked with ignition off.

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14th Sep 2018 5:45pm

Alien

Member Since: 18 Jan 2015
Location: Bacchus Marsh
Posts: 230

Until the new switch arrives leave the switch in the "main" position while parked.
This will put a larger air gap between the "flash" contacts. Cheers,
Kyle.

16th Sep 2018 1:25am

stuckinmud

Member Since: 23 Jan 2013
Location: monmouthshire
Posts: 7

SOLVED!
when i opened the steering column console up to replace the indicator stalk i was greeted with a cloud of smoke.
one of the wires from one of the stalks in there was routed across the switch block for the main light stalk. All the wires exiting this switch block do so via a brass post to which the insulated wires are soldered. The posts are not insulated and are sharp enough to wear away the insulation on any wire that decides to sit above it.

I made sure the wires were cable tied away from this switch block but it does seem remiss of land rover not to have put an insulated cover over this block.

hope this helps anyone with similar issue.

9th Feb 2019 11:59pm

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