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| kenzle8a Member Since: 12 Feb 2020 Location: None Posts: 1074  
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After years of picking R compounds for my Cooper S I'm learning as much as I can about the Defender.
My only exp was our old farm truck on the OE Michalins about 15 years ago but it was only pottering between fields. Now I have a 110 TD5 that needs to work towing (90% Road) and maybe 10% in muddy fields. Its a work truck and isn't used for greenlanes or anything like that, it goes between and through fields on the farm, mostly on B roads all year. They need to work on road and in the wet / ice and snow most of all, I've discounted the KO2 after reading various reports. I've been looking at the following Tyres: https://4x4tyres.co.uk/product/265-75-16-c...3-4s-116t/ https://www.costco.co.uk/Tyres-Automotive/...e/p/539093 |
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27th Oct 2020 6:56pm |
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| kenzle8a Member Since: 12 Feb 2020 Location: None Posts: 1074
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I've read a lot on here about them (KO2) being a bit pants in the wet / ice. Happy to add them back on the list if folk think they are Scottish enough.
Buying Defender tyres is a whole new minefield for me. The Cooper S is pretty simple. AO52 R comps in the summer and Pilot Sport 3's for the winter. |
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27th Oct 2020 7:38pm |
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| Scoobeenut Member Since: 04 Mar 2015 Location: West London Posts: 310  
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I have never had problems with the KO2’s in the wet but have heard that the mud terrains are not that good in the wet.
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27th Oct 2020 7:48pm |
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| kenzle8a Member Since: 12 Feb 2020 Location: None Posts: 1074
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That I've found out
 it currently has BFG Muds on it (came with it) not utterly awful but since one doesn't go mud plugging they aren't needed for what I do. |
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27th Oct 2020 7:50pm |
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| Retroanaconda Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2639 
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I’ve done close to 150k on my last two sets of the BFG ATs with no problems. They’ll let go in the wet if you push hard enough but no worse than any other AT in my experience. Drive it like a Land Rover and no problem.
I’ve also never found any difference in fuel economy or noise between road patterns and the BFGs, as such I can’t see any reason not to run them as their grip off road is obviously far better. They don’t cope well with deep mud like a MT does, but I generally do my best to avoid that sort of terrain. |
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27th Oct 2020 8:14pm |
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| Scotm Member Since: 28 Feb 2014 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 666 
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I am one of those who doesn't like the KO2 for cold wet braking. I am thinking of Cooper's or Falken when I replace.
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27th Oct 2020 8:36pm |
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| Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3263 
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I'm not impressed with KO2's either. Swapping for Pirelli Scorpion AT plus next time around. WARNING.
This post may contain sarcasm. |
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27th Oct 2020 9:02pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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I can recommend General Grabber AT3. Very civilised on the road and winter rated so good for snow/ice/wet. Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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27th Oct 2020 9:56pm |
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| bear100 Member Since: 22 Mar 2010 Location: South Wales Posts: 1913  
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I have had KO2’s for a few years now and never had a problem with them in the wet or the snow, I personally think they are great all rounder tyres, recently done a 4K mile trip around the alps and they performed really well on and off the road, wear is fantastic they are easily going to hit 40-50k 2016 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 TDV8
2010 110 XS Utility 2.4TDCI 2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 (gone) 2007 Discovery HSE TDV6 (gone) 1993 110 csw 200 tdi (gone) 1994 90 HT 300 tdi (gone) 1994 discovery 300tdi (gone) 90 hybrid 3.5 v8 (gone) Range rover bobtail 3.5 v8 (gone) |
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27th Oct 2020 10:14pm |
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| JOW240725 Member Since: 04 May 2015 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7904 
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I haven't had any issues with KO2's. I think maybe batches vary. James
MY2012 110 2.2TDCi XS SW Orkney Grey - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic43410.html MY1990 110 200TDi SW beautifully faded Portofino Red - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post743641.html#743641 MY1984 90 V8 Slate Grey - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post744557.html#744557 Instagram @suffolk_rovers |
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27th Oct 2020 10:29pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17359 
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SWMBO has KO2s on her L200 and they are completely satisfactory in wet, dry, cold and heat as long as you don't drive like an idiot. I've driven half a million miles on KM2 and KM3 on my Disco and Defender and they are also excellent in wet, dry, cold and heat unless you drive like a fool, but they can be tricky on compacted snow on tarmac.
I imagine that either of the tyres in the links will be grippier on tarmac than KOs or KMs but will be almost useless in a muddy field unless the field is frozen. |
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27th Oct 2020 10:31pm |
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| Ianh Member Since: 17 Sep 2018 Location: Essex Posts: 1995
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Another one to consider are Goodyear wrangler duratrac 265/75R16. Worth reading reviews but my personal experience is they are good on the dry road, in the wet and in the snow. I’ve not used in the thick mud but reviewers say they perform well. Not as good in the mud as a dedicated mud tyre but well enough considering their good performance in other areas.
They don’t seem to get mentioned much on here as they are not available as a 255/85r16 , which is a size I would go for if available, but the 265/75r16 have performed very well over the last 5.5 years. You get many different and varied tyre reviews when you search on any particular tyre. However I think this one is accurate given my experience of dry, wet and snow use on the road, so the mud use will hopefully be as accurate. https://canadiangearhead.com/best-offroad-tire-for-winter/ The author reviews his 245s and 285s but his general view is consistent for both, and the 265s sit in the middle of that range so I think the review may be helpful. |
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28th Oct 2020 1:56am |
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| kenzle8a Member Since: 12 Feb 2020 Location: None Posts: 1074
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Food for thought, I’ve looked but can’t find the Duratracs in 16 anywhere. Looks like the ko2 is worth a try. I don’t drive like a loon, i have other cars for enjoying track days etc.
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28th Oct 2020 8:42am |
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| Chicken Drumstick Member Since: 17 Aug 2020 Location: Near MK Posts: 716
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Either of the tyres you list will likely work fine. They are more road biased however. If you think you will end up in a muddy or wet grassy field however, something more aggressive will work loads better. So it's a trade off. The other option, if you really need the best 'on road' performance for snow and ice. Then a more dedicated winter tyre might do the trick. But may have accelerated wear in warmer dryer conditions. KO2's would probably work well. I think most of the wet road complaints stem from the older variants of the tyre. Not so much at the currently one. The older ones also had a rep for going hard and never wearing down, but once hard they really were rubbish in the wet. |
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28th Oct 2020 10:28am |
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