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Mwd

Member Since: 12 Jan 2016
Location: Scottish Highlands
Posts: 45

Still leaking - passenger footwell

I few weeks ago I had water leaking into both footwells so I used tiger seal to seal across the foam gasket between the bulkhead and window frame, as well as behind the windscreen blocks (these had been refitted too soon after painting by the bodyshop who replaced the windscreen frame under warranty and the new paint had crinkled, leaving a poor surface for the rubber gaskets to seal against). The driver's side is now dry but I still have water dripping down behind the dashboard on the passenger side, appearing where the door stay is attached and dripping down onto the mat. The door seal looks OK (by Defender standards) so I suspect the culprit is somewhere else.
Where are the most likely places for me to check next?
Thanks

14th Nov 2018 11:38am

Balvaig

Member Since: 19 Feb 2016
Location: Fife
Posts: 731

2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 Landmark LE Corris Grey

Does it depend on the angle the car is parked.
My leak was coming from the front gutter, which was dripping down onto the door seal at the kinking the door. This then ran into the car along the check strap and onto the mat. The door seal can also crease just at this point.
I fitted a new door seal and put a blob of mastic at the front gutter discharge point to divert the water away.

14th Nov 2018 11:46am

Adam17

Member Since: 15 May 2018
Location: Within Bedfordshire
Posts: 1193

I found some holes in the foot well driver side - I wonder if it may be the same passenger side? Regards
Adam

Loving The Duchess
The Defender 110 TD5 XS

My Defender story - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic64005.html

14th Nov 2018 12:47pm

Adam17

Member Since: 15 May 2018
Location: Within Bedfordshire
Posts: 1193

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Adam

Loving The Duchess
The Defender 110 TD5 XS

My Defender story - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic64005.html

14th Nov 2018 12:48pm

Grenadier

Member Since: 23 Jul 2014
Location: The foot of Mont Blanc...
Posts: 5829

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Corris Grey

My leak was the same as Adam's. Holes at the top of the driver's box. Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey

14th Nov 2018 2:32pm

foggydave

Member Since: 29 Nov 2012
Location: Midlands
Posts: 263

2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Bonatti Grey

Water running off the end of the channel under the windscreen runs into the engine compartment and goes down the bulkhead inside the engine bay. The water sometimes runs between the heater box and the bulkhead due to the seal deterioration. To alleviate this problem Land Rover supply a part LRO38612 Seal Fender which deflects the water forward along the wing so that it runs into the engine bay above the wheel arch.
The fender seal on the o/s will stop water running onto the control pedal area. Although on mine I only fitted one to the n/s.

I think there are 2 separate part nos for ns/os parts but I am not sure.

This cured my water ingress problem on the n/s.

I hope it helps

Last edited by foggydave on 15th Nov 2018 7:07am. Edited 1 time in total

14th Nov 2018 4:27pm

Badger110

Member Since: 06 Feb 2018
Location: South hams
Posts: 1039

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Buckingham Blue

What foggy has said.

You can , if your dash is out, trace where the water comes back in and from the inspection under the bonnet, I can confirm it comes off the channel.

Extend the channel

14th Nov 2018 6:09pm

Adam17

Member Since: 15 May 2018
Location: Within Bedfordshire
Posts: 1193

foggydave wrote:
Water running off the end of the channel under the windscreen runs into the engine compartment and goes down the bulkhead inside the engine bay. The water sometimes runs between the heater box and the bulkhead due to the seal deterioration. To alleviate this problem Land Rover supply a part LRO38612 Seal Fender which deflects the water forward along the wing so that it runs into the engine bay above the wheel arch.
The fender seal on the o/s will stop water running onto the control pedal area. Although on mine I only fitted one to the n/s.

I think there are 2 separate part nos for ns/os parts but I am not sure.

This cured my water ingress problem on the n/s.

I hope it helps

when I was trying to find my leak I noticed that the water was pouring from the window channel into the engine bay and running down the bulk head... I was trying to think of a way to channel the water further from the engine bay..even over the outside of the fender, completely away from the engine bay..

If I come up with anything ill let you all know.. I will check out the part numbers above, but think I would rather stop the water from getting in the engine bay than deflect it inside the engine bay..... Regards
Adam

Loving The Duchess
The Defender 110 TD5 XS

My Defender story - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic64005.html

15th Nov 2018 12:08pm

foggydave

Member Since: 29 Nov 2012
Location: Midlands
Posts: 263

The Fender is about 6-8 inches long and provides a lip to stop the water. You could affix a strip of material all the way along the inside of the wing which would be effective. Or a channel section (gutter) fixed along the inside edge of the wing.

15th Nov 2018 3:01pm

8619simon

Member Since: 04 Nov 2016
Location: North Wales
Posts: 247

1995 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Epsom Green

Try as I might I cannot find this Fender thing or part number listed

Probably bad Google foo on my part but would welcome a link if possible please.

15th Nov 2018 8:52pm

foggydave

Member Since: 29 Nov 2012
Location: Midlands
Posts: 263

Sorry it seems I put O instead of 0 (zero)

LR 038612

15th Nov 2018 9:55pm

8619simon

Member Since: 04 Nov 2016
Location: North Wales
Posts: 247

16th Nov 2018 7:53pm

Mwd

Member Since: 12 Jan 2016
Location: Scottish Highlands
Posts: 45

foggydave wrote:
Water running off the end of the channel under the windscreen runs into the engine compartment and goes down the bulkhead inside the engine bay. The water sometimes runs between the heater box and the bulkhead due to the seal deterioration. To alleviate this problem Land Rover supply a part LRO38612 Seal Fender which deflects the water forward along the wing so that it runs into the engine bay above the wheel arch.
The fender seal on the o/s will stop water running onto the control pedal area. Although on mine I only fitted one to the n/s.

I think there are 2 separate part nos for ns/os parts but I am not sure.

This cured my water ingress problem on the n/s.

I hope it helps

My Defender is fitted with these but the N/S one wasn’t sealed to the bulkhead so water has been dribbling down the engine side of the bulkhead. I refitted it with some sealant. The one on the O/S had fallen off and was wedged in the wiring and brake pipes below the wing. Refitted that one too, so now I need to get the hosepipe out to test it, or wait for it to rain. Thanks for the tip!

16th Nov 2018 9:39pm

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