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110SEB



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
Jump leads
Haven't used jump leads for years. Is there an order for putting them on? I don't want any excuses for the 110 to have a wobbly!
Post #68833 27th Apr 2011 8:08pm
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BigRuss



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I was always tought to connect the negative lead first (general rule of thumb). Russell
2011MY 110 XS USW Black
Post #68840 27th Apr 2011 8:18pm
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kingofthesparks



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connect negative lead first and remove it last ! , always connect direct to battery on good vehicle but ideally to earthing point on bad vehicle, leave engine running whilst connecting. Thumbs Up
Post #68842 27th Apr 2011 8:24pm
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spudfan



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Gives full details in the Puma handbook. One of the few bits of hands on info in it. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
Post #68855 27th Apr 2011 8:52pm
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110SEB



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Well, the LR answer from the manual is:

Both vehicles off.

1. Connect +ve claw onto +ve terminal in donor vehicle
2. Connect other end +ve claw onto +ve terminal in dead vehicle
3. Connect -ve claw onto -ve terminal in donor vehicle
4. Connect other end -ve claw to an earth point in dead vehicle
5. Start donor vehicle, wait few mins
6. Start dead vehicle, wait two minutes.
7. Turn off donor vehicle.
8. Undo leads in reverse oder of above (4-1).

Land Rover appear to have missed a stage:

9. If the dead vehicle was a lesser 4x4 charge the owner £20 for services rendered.
Post #68893 28th Apr 2011 8:12am
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ken



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Post #68900 28th Apr 2011 8:49am
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shingwell



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It's very easy to touch or brush the bodywork with one of the jump lead claws when connecting up, and that is the reason for the stated recommended order. If you did it in a different order you could easily end up shorting out the battery via the bodywork, which is not only dangerous but could leave you with two flat batteries.
Post #68905 28th Apr 2011 9:10am
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spudfan



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I have a booster jump start battery thing and it says to connect the clamps on the booster to both battery terminals. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
Post #68945 28th Apr 2011 4:34pm
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BBSJK



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Anyone tried rigging up something like Entreq's jump start kit?

http://www.entreq.de/products/electrical-e...r-td4.html

The father-in-law's tractor does not have a battery fitted (as it is used in frequent) and so needs jump starting. Somthing like a socket fitted to the outside of of the Landy looks a simple solution. Just need to do it to a tighter budget!

JK No the other left . . .
Post #68953 28th Apr 2011 5:14pm
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The Boy



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BBSJK wrote:
Anyone tried rigging up something like Entreq's jump start kit?

http://www.entreq.de/products/electrical-e...r-td4.html

The father-in-law's tractor does not have a battery fitted (as it is used in frequent) and so needs jump starting. Somthing like a socket fitted to the outside of of the Landy looks a simple solution. Just need to do it to a tighter budget!

JK


I made my own to save a little Thumbs Up

Anderson socket placed at the near side of the bumper. I am forever jumping vans and FLT's.


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Post #68957 28th Apr 2011 5:54pm
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WarPig



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Ive always connected the -ve clamp to the dead cars -ve battery terminal, not the earth point. Is there anythng wrong with doing this?
Post #68958 28th Apr 2011 6:32pm
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shingwell



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Ive always connected the -ve clamp to the dead cars -ve battery terminal, not the earth point. Is there anythng wrong with doing this?


I believe the reason is that, theoretically, there could be explosive gasses (hydrogen?) around the battery. When you make the final connection you often get a spark, need I say more...!

That said, I've actually never heard of a battery explosion, but I'm sure someone will know different!
Post #68973 28th Apr 2011 8:07pm
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WarPig



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Thanks shingwell. Think Ill get the wife to do it from now Shocked
Post #68977 28th Apr 2011 8:55pm
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Matt



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WarPig wrote:
Ive always connected the -ve clamp to the dead cars -ve battery terminal, not the earth point. Is there anythng wrong with doing this?



Not sure its the same with LR, but I know from work that if you jump start a tractor (either the doner or dead vehicle) straight onto its battery terminals it can fry the ECU and/or engine CPU, and I've seen it on three different tractors myself. This is why tractor manufacturers now put in designated jumping points to use and warn customers not to jump straight off the battery.
Post #68982 28th Apr 2011 9:15pm
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Dave-H



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[quote="shingwell"]
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That said, I've actually never heard of a battery explosion, but I'm sure someone will know different!


They go off like a bomb!!
Seen it a few times in my 24 years mechanic'in .... even 'did it' myself once, scares the bejesus out of you ... and the acid splashes DO burn! Guns and Landrovers .... anything else is irrelevant.
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