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| seriesonenut Member Since: 19 Nov 2014 Location: Essex Posts: 1211  
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Interesting article on the bbc news site suggesting the change to electric and automated cars is about to ramp up and lead to the rapid decline of petrol and diesel cars and ultimately drivers.
The article compares the situation now to the turn of the 20thC. Within 10 years 1000's of years reliance on the horse disappeared in just 10 short years. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45786690 Whist I see change happening, am I the only person who actually likes driving or being able to go where I want, when I want and not be taken there on mass public transport or worse in some automated electric pod?  2010 XS USW
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10th Oct 2018 8:14pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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I read that, too. It's an incredibly metro-centric article that takes no account of all of the things that people use cars for beyond simple personal transport. Daft, really
 Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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10th Oct 2018 8:44pm |
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| dioliahary Member Since: 18 Jan 2015 Location: Manchester Posts: 668 
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There's a swell and movement forming, my Defender is my second car. My company car (hybrid) being the daily. Love my Defender but just wonder if with it being a big old diesel will it soon be worthless due to environmental pressure groups demonising all that is petrol and diesel. 1990 200tdi conversion 90
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10th Oct 2018 9:07pm |
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| L110CDL Member Since: 31 Oct 2015 Location: Devon Posts: 10751 
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Whist I see change happening, am I the only person who actually likes driving or being able to go where I want, when I want and not be taken there on mass public transport or worse in some automated electric pod?
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No your not, i'm the same as you  1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.
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10th Oct 2018 9:48pm |
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| grafty99 Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: North Devon Posts: 4785 
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I think that just like there are still plenty of horses left (albeit used mostly for recreation) I think that whilst the majority may move to EV and automated vehicles there will still be a place for petrol and diesel vehicles
I certainly won't be giving up my vehicles unless I am forced to by law 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200 Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html Instagram http://www.instagram.com/george_grafton |
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10th Oct 2018 10:32pm |
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| o4dn Member Since: 08 Jan 2010 Location: South West Posts: 539  
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With fewer petrol and diesel cars on the road, there'll be fewer gas stations and fuel price will be rocketting. “A Land Rover immobilized is a moral defeat for the driver and bad publicity for the vehicle, […] it's up to you to do justice to your Land Rover!” - Land Rover Driving Technique. -- 2009 2.4 Puma Defender 90 SW 1979 Land Rover Series 3 88" |
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11th Oct 2018 6:59am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17378 
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^^ This. Remember how they said that it would continue to be possible to buy leaded petrol for classic cars? Try finding it now.
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11th Oct 2018 7:41am |
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| Mike c Member Since: 11 Aug 2017 Location: Maldon, Essex Posts: 928 
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This is a very sobering post, makes you think how this will all pan out. If the demand for fuel in general drops, it will become an expensive and not viable for lots of us due to cost....
Then you have the vehicle tax to consider and how much that will increase? |
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11th Oct 2018 8:04am |
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| Kit Member Since: 12 Feb 2016 Location: Shropshire Posts: 1110 
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The thing that confuses me is where will all this electricity come from, will the grid be able to take it?
If they can commercially build a fusion power plant then that will be the deciding factor. 1993 200 Tdi 90 CSW 1956 Series 1 Hard-top 1958 Series 1 Soft-top |
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11th Oct 2018 8:31am |
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| MineRover Member Since: 05 Apr 2015 Location: Essex Posts: 25 
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Interesting but more questions that answers, What about commercial vehicles will all HGV's be electric and driverless? That also raises questions, I know Tesla have been trying out HGV's but come on really Scotland to the westcountry with an electric truck?
Then what about the HGV drivers what are they supposed to do? they mention the taxi drivers being out of work combine that with autonomous shops with no shop assistants and drones delivering your mail it begs the question where are we all supposed to work? The say it will save people money but they will not be earning any to spend!! 
And just how will the government replace the billions of pounds per year milked from the drivers of fossil fuel cars and trucks especially if we are all out of work?! Makes you worry when you consider back to the days of the horse and cart becouse the coming of the car put all the farriers, stables etc out of work and nobody in government cared! Keep driving the Land Rovers for as long as we can!! Last edited by MineRover on 11th Oct 2018 4:16pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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11th Oct 2018 12:23pm |
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| JOW240725 Member Since: 04 May 2015 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7905 
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Are you saying investing in Defender's is a bad idea??
  
PS I love driving! I'd happily drive an electric Defender, but have no desire whatsoever to go driverless. James MY2012 110 2.2TDCi XS SW Orkney Grey - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic43410.html MY1990 110 200TDi SW beautifully faded Portofino Red - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post743641.html#743641 MY1984 90 V8 Slate Grey - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post744557.html#744557 Instagram @suffolk_rovers Last edited by JOW240725 on 11th Oct 2018 1:00pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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11th Oct 2018 12:46pm |
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| X4SKP Member Since: 29 Nov 2013 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2295 
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Electric
Very happy to move across if it can equal or better the towing capability and range of my Defender Driverless We already have driverless 'cars', there called Taxis and Trains. I get the driverless option inner-city or even urban areas and probably a boring commute to work (which I have never had) I certainly get it for our aging population where safe mobility is a problem. What I don't get is the assumption that on-mass driverless is what the majority want or will accept being 'forced' on them. Imagine you get in your driverless car in the South of England program it for Scotland and then what... more screen time 
or you spin your chair round and play scrabble with your travel companions
(am I heading towards the grumpy old man thread here...is it just me )
With so much now automated, pre-assigned, dumbed down, I don't want the pleasurable driving experience to be taken away. If I ever had a Driverless car there would have to be an OFF Button. How can you go on an adventure in a pre-programmed driverless car
Lastly.... and seriously, who insures a Driverless Car, when it crashes who's fault is it... SKIP
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11th Oct 2018 12:48pm |
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| gilarion Member Since: 05 Dec 2013 Location: Wales Posts: 5110  
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Insurance companies will use sensor data to ascertain liability in accidents involving self-driving cars. Self-drive vehicles are information-rich platforms thanks to the range of sensors on board that track, monitor, record and measure everything. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at.. http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1 |
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11th Oct 2018 1:22pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17378
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In a sane world that kind of journey would be accomplished by driving the vehicle onto a train, or by means of other intermodal cargo handling systems allowing the railways to do the long-haul part of the distribution. The second transport revolution, if it happens, will be as dramatic as the first and will be painful for many! |
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11th Oct 2018 2:33pm |
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