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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3407  
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That’s a fair chunk of metal.
I’d probably scrape my shins on them |
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14th Jul 2020 7:29pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 
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They wouldn’t be a shin scraper with the door closed because if the spare wheel
But there is definitely a possibly of bashed knees/ shins at access height with the door open trying to load something bulky into the load space which is maybe why the Defender X has red ones.
Something I was (maybe shouldn’t have been) surprised with is that the cast steel recovery eye is bolted directly onto the aluminium beam with no neoprene / nylon washer between to prevent electrolysis / oxidisation / corrosion- LR doesn’t appear to have learned much about corrosion between dis-similar metals in all those years of fitting aluminium bodies to steel chassis! Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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14th Jul 2020 8:34pm |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4704 
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Or alloy door skins on metal frames. Maybe Gerri does not know as much about the old (REAL
 )Defender as he should.  1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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14th Jul 2020 8:55pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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He’ll claim that it’s part of the carried over DNA from the Classic Defender........ along with the side hinged rear door with the spare wheel on it. No idea which part of the DNA of the old one formed the Squircles though Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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14th Jul 2020 8:59pm |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4704
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Any truth in the rumour that JLR have seen sense and they are beavering away behind the scenes on a traditional Defender replacement? This being the reason why they did not sell the rights to INEOS and have tried to stop INEOS using the shape they have settled on. Seems they have brought back some designers from retirement land and given them new pencils and drawing boards to get moving. Seems they have decided on a galvanised chassis to get the march on INEOS. Expect results in four years time when the current Defender gets revamped and renamed.
Damn these daisies sure taste good, I must pick some more and make another sandwich.... 1982 88" 2.25 diesel 1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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14th Jul 2020 9:33pm |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3407
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The new Defender can easily be stripped of electrics, the touch screen can be removed without redesigning the dash as it’s design is already a big gaping hole, it doesn’t need Terrain Responce or air suspension. It can do without all the connectivity. If LR really wanted to they could have a proper basic Defender without redesigning a whole new vehicle.
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14th Jul 2020 10:55pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018  
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I have been wondering about Project Zeus ~ the hydrogen cell vehicle JLR, and others, have just received funding for. It needs a platform. It has been stated everything other than Defender will be moving onto the MLA platform, with public comments that the Defender is not an appropriate vehicle to be electrically powered but could be better suited to hydrogen. If I squint hard, I can just see this on the horizon, either that or it's a red herring. Either way, it could also be a ginormous white elephant. Where's the Defender in this line up? 
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15th Jul 2020 5:15am |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2645  
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You have to wonder why they didn't offer these new MHEV diesel engines on the Defender?
https://media.landrover.com/news/2020/07/n...ange-rover "Hybrid Power: New family of 3.0-litre straight-six Ingenium diesel engines features 48V Mild Hybrid Electric Vehicle (MHEV) technology and joins Plug-In Hybrid ... The latest generation of smooth and efficient straight-six Ingenium diesel engines, incorporating 48V Mild Hybrid Electric Vehicle (MHEV) technology for reduced fuel consumption and heightened refinement, has been developed in-house. It is available in 249PS (183kW), 300PS (221kW) and 350PS (258kW) outputs.* ... The latest Ingenium diesel engines are the perfect choice for high-mileage customers and those who regularly tow. Based around Jaguar Land Rover’s modular aluminium engine architecture, the new in-line diesel engines are smoother and more refined than the previous generation and feature advanced 48V mild hybrid technology to meet the most stringent global emissions regulations. These include the Real Driving Emissions Step 2 (RDE2) standards, which govern nitrogen oxide (NOx) emissions, making the new Range Rover among the first full-sized luxury and performance SUVs in the world to be available with RDE2-certified diesels. The highly efficient engines deliver improved responses by harvesting and storing energy generated during deceleration and intelligently redeploying it to assist the engine when accelerating. The new mild-hybrid 3.0-litre D300 Ingenium diesel is capable of up to 33.0mpg (8.6l/100km) on the WLTP test cycle, emitting as little as 225g/km CO2. The more powerful D350 achieves up to 30.8mpg (9.2l/100km) with CO2 emissions of 241g/km on the WLTP cycle. As a result, the new flagship diesel provides superior performance to the previous V8 with the efficiency and weight of a six-cylinder design. The new engine range comprises: Diesel: D250 – 249PS (183kW), 3.0-litre six cylinder diesel MHEV, 600Nm of torque at 1,250-2,250rpm* D300 – 300PS (221kW), 3.0-litre six cylinder diesel MHEV, 650Nm of torque at 1,500-2,500rpm D350 – 350PS (257kW), 3.0-litre six cylinder diesel MHEV, 700Nm of torque at 1,500-3,000rpm ..." Click image to enlarge -- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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15th Jul 2020 6:56am |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3407
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The D300 MHEV will available on Defender, there’s a 90 been spied testing it.
https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72734.html |
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15th Jul 2020 9:43am |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2645
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Nice off-roading comparison with a bunch of other 4x4s in Moldova:
-- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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15th Jul 2020 11:33am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Shame we didn't get to see the Defender on this section:
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15th Jul 2020 12:56pm |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3407
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Looks like Defender is set to get either D300 or D350 or both in the coming months according to this article
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-car...raight-six “The new, in-house-designed Ingenium engine replaces the Ford-derived diesels and is available in two guises: the D300, with 296bhp and 479lb ft, and the D350, which raises output to 345bhp and 516lb ft. Claimed to be smoother and more refined than the outgoing powerplants, the Ingenium unit is capable of up to 33.0mpg on the WLTP cycle – significantly more than the old V8. Plus, a 0-62mph time of 6.5sec for the Range Rover Sport D350 marks a 0.7sec improvement. The introduction of 48V electrical hardware also helps make the new engine RDE2-compliant. It’s expected to be added to the new Land Rover Defender in the coming months and could be the 4x4’s sole engine option in the US.” |
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15th Jul 2020 2:39pm |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2645
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2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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15th Jul 2020 3:07pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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Naks Suoacat already posted the video link here https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic73455.html Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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15th Jul 2020 3:19pm |
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