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tookaphotoof



Member Since: 18 Mar 2013
Location: dordrecht
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Netherlands 2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Santorini Black
Just download the brochure and you'll see the oldskool height adjustable towball.
Post #791803 10th Sep 2019 2:19pm
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JordanBefender



Member Since: 29 Aug 2019
Location: York
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United Kingdom 
Re:

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regarding the Square panel, apparently it is an option, i heard in this video.

Post #791804 10th Sep 2019 2:23pm
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Bluest



Member Since: 23 Apr 2016
Location: Lancashire
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
Not sure what the etiquette is regarding linking to other forums, but the main Defender 2020 discussion on pistonheads.com has some interesting comments from someone who claims to have been involved in the engineering. Claiming there has been quite a bit of conflict between the engineers and designers over the direction of the vehicle. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
Post #791805 10th Sep 2019 2:24pm
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boxoftricks



Member Since: 06 Feb 2019
Location: Home Counties
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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Zermatt Silver
Which thread please as I could not find on there.
Post #791806 10th Sep 2019 2:34pm
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What puddle?



Member Since: 25 Oct 2013
Location: Reading
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United Kingdom 
Can we (most of us) agree that this isn't the new Defender? It's the new Freelander, surely? Will someone be putting up a poll on here? Now left.
Post #791807 10th Sep 2019 2:38pm
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Landish



Member Since: 19 Jun 2018
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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 90 Td5 SW Belize Green
blackwolf wrote:
I can't see a non-leather interior option either.

That's stuffed it for the Vegans.

I can't see any towing options other than the (non-height-adjustable) swan-neck 50mm ball, although you can have it electrically deployable (wow).

That's stuffed it for ring & pin or NATO hitches, and high hitches then.


The ‘basic’ version has fabric trim.

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 2005 Defender 90 TD5
Post #791808 10th Sep 2019 2:39pm
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Bluest



Member Since: 23 Apr 2016
Location: Lancashire
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
boxoftricks wrote:
Which thread please as I could not find on there.


This one Thumbs Up

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic....&i=400

Look for the username Vanlife.global 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
Post #791809 10th Sep 2019 2:48pm
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Mitchnotrich



Member Since: 27 Apr 2019
Location: Worcestershire
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Keswick Green
I've been all over the new Defender configurator, but I can't seem to find the option to add in the following:-

Leaking water in the footwell - get that genuine land rover feeling as the split rubber seal lets water in when driving through rain
Vibrating steering wheel of death - experience the full benefit of Land Rover engineering by going over 70mph and having the steering wheel vibrate so much you believe the wheels must have fallen off
Where's my Defender? - hi-spec keyless entry means that theives don't even have to undo door bolts to get into your vehicle and take it away.

Any other options you'd like to see?
Post #791811 10th Sep 2019 2:57pm
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Grenadier



Member Since: 23 Jul 2014
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France 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Corris Grey
Some funny quips from the comments section of a broadsheet. Excuse me if these ‘belong’ to anyone on here Thumbs Up

“Most of them will be bough by people who think "the great outdoors" is the gardening section at B&Q.”

“Don't knock the gardening section at B&Q. Cheap plants. People buying this won't do gardening. Their main outdoor activity will be sitting outside the pub watching how many people admire their new vehicle.”

“For Islington mothers to do school runs and load up with Xanax”

“Land Rover now makes 7 models and the biggest difference between them, so far as I can see, is how squishy the carpets are.”

“Don't know who this vehicle is aimed at. Seems to be for people who imagine they will make an expedition across unmapped wastes but in reality drive up the motorway to Scotland and head to the tarmac roads of the North 500.”

“what a useless ugly thing. clearly designed for the far east. original was an inferior US jeep. should be called the land rover brexit”

“Jim Radcliffe will be very happy today.”

“If you can whack it with a hammer from opposite directions or beat out dents with a lump hammer and it still functions and looks ok, it'd be car it should be.”

“If you cant, i hope there's a handbag pocket.”

“ENOUGH ! ...with the incomprehensible foreign measurements!”

“We'd understand inches, horsepower, and feet.”

“Perfect, that’ll preserve my ‘13 plate Defender’s value for years...”

“The brand is strongly British. Making this car in Eastern Europe is p-ing in the soup.”

“No wonder they kept it under wraps for so long”

“I had hoped that it was going to be a more basic vehicle like my old Series III. Where you could see what was wrong with it and bash the appropriate part with a hammer. With an imperial hammer too - none of this metric stuff Smile

“Just the job for the school run and the Tesco safari.”

“If this is anything like 'British Institution' i.e. the NHS, British Democracy, British rail transportation, it must be a real piece of crap”

“Looks like a Playmobil toy...” Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey
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toetankh



Member Since: 05 Aug 2015
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Netherlands 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
Starting price for a 110 in the Netherlands: 100.000 euro...
A Velar is cheaper over here Very Happy
Post #791820 10th Sep 2019 3:23pm
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Huttopia



Member Since: 23 Feb 2016
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milesr3 wrote:
Anyone else notice the starting price of the 90? £40,290



That is a lot of money for a Freelander 1. Is it sharing the same platform and engine as the current Disco?
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diduan



Member Since: 13 Oct 2016
Location: Central Balkan
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Bulgaria 
This car is not getting them out of the financial difficulties. Defender 110 SW MY2011 2.4tdci decat, no EGR
Jeep Wrangler YJ 1990 4.0. Front 78' Dana 60, Rear CUCV 14 bolt
Post #791864 10th Sep 2019 5:20pm
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blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Landish wrote:


The ‘basic’ version has fabric trim.


Thank you, I missed that on the Configurator, I think I was overwhelmed by verticality! Good news for Vegans needing a tough vehicle for the Tesco Avocado Safari!

I also missed the traditional adjustable hitch, which I am pretty sure doesn't feature on the Configurator (probably too manly).

Does anyone know if it has a proper centre diff, or is it a Haldex unit?
Post #791868 10th Sep 2019 5:43pm
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Rashers



Member Since: 21 Jun 2015
Location: Norfolk
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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey
Have they galvanised the chassis, this time round??

It's out of my price range, and to be honest, I'm not sure even if I had the money, it's not what I would purchase. I think I would buy a D5 or a Velar perhaps?

As has been said in this thread previously, by many, I am not who JLR are pitching this vehicle to?

I haven't followed many of the threads on the new Defender, until today, but I have to say, some of the comments on here are really funny and I'm finding the conversation really entertaining. It does seem to be a very marmite design.

For what it's worth, I like the look of the new 110, I am not keen on the look of the 90 (which is the exact opposite to how I feel about the 'old' Defender - even though I bought a 110, I love the look of the 90).

I just don't think it looks enough like the old Defender which I think is a real shame.
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Dave T



Member Since: 07 Jun 2013
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United Kingdom 1994 Defender 90 300 Tdi SW Cairns Blue
toetankh wrote:
Starting price for a 110 in the Netherlands: 100.000 euro...
A Velar is cheaper over here Very Happy


We are £20 cheaper in the uk for a defender.......with steel wheels and cloth seats 2015 RRS Autobiography SDV6
1994 Def 90 300tdi
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