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duckworthparts
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Yeah, not a single one of these people look like Defender drivers. Most likely actors that LR hired as part of their marketing campaign

What would a typical Defender owner look like

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30th Aug 2019 9:50am

ericvv

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duckworthparts wrote:
What would a typical Defender owner look like

Like me of course.

You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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30th Aug 2019 9:53am

nakatanenga

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Some of the persons are known personally as Defender drivers and owners! WANTED:

SII or SIII in max 1.5k

30th Aug 2019 9:57am

duckworthparts
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Exactly, you can't stereotype a Defender owner by look

Or do they need rigger boots, camo gear and a leather bush hat

30th Aug 2019 9:59am

ericvv

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duckworthparts wrote:
Exactly, they need rigger boots, camo gear and a leather bush hat

Oops, after all, not me then.

30th Aug 2019 10:09am

Naks

Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
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duckworthparts wrote:
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Yeah, not a single one of these people look like Defender drivers. Most likely actors that LR hired as part of their marketing campaign

What would a typical Defender owner look like

according to some around here, unless you're doing this, you're not a *real* Defender driver:

my original comment was TIC, I most definitely DO NOT look like the typical South African Defender driver

but also, not a SINGLE person from Africa or Australia, the last truly 'frontier' places where the new Defender will have to prove itself.

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30th Aug 2019 11:00am

nicam

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[quote="Supacat"][quote="Naks"]

blackrangie wrote:
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I certainly didn't recognise any of them as the type of person I see when doing the rounds of LR shows...

But surely you should be looking at the people being offered free coffee in a JLR dealership to see the people who are actually buying from JLR. Don`t drive faster than your angel can fly!

30th Aug 2019 11:27am

LandRoverAnorak

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I'm beginning to wonder if this will be Defenders' P38 moment - widely unliked and so LR keep producing the old model (in this guise via the Works V8 and the Heritage division) to be replaced by a much more radical and highly regarded version in a few years time. Darren

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30th Aug 2019 11:43am

Zed

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Fingers crossed!

30th Aug 2019 11:46am

NoDo$h

Member Since: 18 Aug 2007
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LandRoverAnorak wrote:
I'm beginning to wonder if this will be Defenders' P38 moment - widely unliked and so LR keep producing the old model (in this guise via the Works V8 and the Heritage division) to be replaced by a much more radical and highly regarded version in a few years time.

I posted along these lines previously; this is now on one of the mainstream JLR platforms and so will need to follow the same lifecycle. We'll see a facelift around 2024.5 MY, then a replacement on a full BEV platform will start to surface around 2028 ahead of the planned banning of new model ICE in key EU markets circa 2030.

So if you don't like this model, you'll not have too long to wait for a new vehicle and platform. As to continuation of production of the old Defender? My view is that's wishful thinking, but I'm prepared to be surprised.

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30th Aug 2019 11:53am

blackrangie

Member Since: 07 Jul 2019
Location: sydney
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Supacat,
Interestingly in the uk toyota and LR are similar in dependability according to JD power.

In the US LR was most improved over last year with issues mainly down to infotainment, and have improved hugely as has the whole industy over 10 years.

Did you know the D5 does around 40,000 units a year, similar to the RRvogue, if each was an average of around AU 125k thats half a billion AU dollars in sales or over a quarter of a billion pounds in sales.

Can see the new defender hitting 200k sales within 2 years.

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30th Aug 2019 1:15pm

boxoftricks

Member Since: 06 Feb 2019
Location: Home Counties
Posts: 747

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LandRoverAnorak wrote:
I'm beginning to wonder if this will be Defenders' P38 moment - widely unliked and so LR keep producing the old model (in this guise via the Works V8 and the Heritage division) to be replaced by a much more radical and highly regarded version in a few years time.

With the Peugeot interest in JLR I’d see a change of tact. They will strip back the model ranges to remove competing models focusing on the profitable ones. I’m expecting the Jag 4x4’s ranges to be discontinued once they reach the end of their model lifecycle. I believe you’ll then see regular updates/facelifts for the remaining ones every year or so. Similar to Audi/BMW/Merc.

Hopefully they see the new Defender platform as a commercial vehicle crossover using their commercial vehicle experience to enter into the fast growing pickup market, something they have struggled with.

30th Aug 2019 1:17pm

blackrangie

Member Since: 07 Jul 2019
Location: sydney
Posts: 181

duckworthparts wrote:
Quote:
Yeah, not a single one of these people look like Defender drivers. Most likely actors that LR hired as part of their marketing campaign

What would a typical Defender owner look like

Spot on! However I believe Naks comment was tongue in cheek 😉

30th Aug 2019 1:20pm

Naks

Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
Posts: 2645

a slightly zoomed out photo was emailed to some people, found this on the Disco3 forum

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30th Aug 2019 1:59pm

Mcfly1985

Member Since: 22 Aug 2019
Location: Florida
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Same front-end as in Bond shot. Bonnet, wings match contours of the one under the drapes. For those that think there are any more surprises as to front end design, I think not. Also, the color in this shot reminds me of the color of this old l “paint booth” leak below

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30th Aug 2019 2:29pm

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