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Co1

Member Since: 19 Aug 2018
Location: North Yorkshire
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Snorkel benefits?

Finally bought my defender and it has a snorkel fitted. I’m not a huge fan, but apart from the obvious when it comes to water ingress, are there any other advantages? I won’t be wading though more than 12” of water so don’t need it for that element, so just deciding whether to take it off.

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2nd Sep 2018 1:36pm

williamthedog

Member Since: 29 Dec 2012
Location: south wales
Posts: 3441

You have to seal all of the intake system before it's a snorkel. What you have at the moment is a raised air intake. Ok it's taking air from where there's less dust etc. They do have a impact on performance so it's your choice.

2nd Sep 2018 1:55pm

Balvaig

Member Since: 19 Feb 2016
Location: Fife
Posts: 732

2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 Landmark LE Corris Grey

Also worth remembering that you will have extra holes to fill and spray, and possible damage to the wing!

2nd Sep 2018 2:00pm

Co1

Member Since: 19 Aug 2018
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 3681

Re: Snorkel benefits?

Thanks. I take it you mean a negative impact on performance?

2nd Sep 2018 2:01pm

Co1

Member Since: 19 Aug 2018
Location: North Yorkshire
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Balvaig wrote:
Also worth remembering that you will have extra holes to fill and spray, and possible damage to the wing!

Yep, I had considered that, which will be a pain! This is why I am balancing up the benefits of just leaving it on.

2nd Sep 2018 2:02pm

Swac3

Member Since: 21 Feb 2015
Location: Aberdeen
Posts: 363

Check your insurers, my old one refused to insure ours, I phoned for a simple change of vehicle and had my insurance cancelled. 3 Landrovers

2nd Sep 2018 3:11pm

JOW240725

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Location: Suffolk
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2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey

BAS did some tests and proved the intake does restrict airflow, so unless you need it or particularly like it, I'd take it off.

Nice 90!

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2nd Sep 2018 8:05pm

Co1

Member Since: 19 Aug 2018
Location: North Yorkshire
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Thanks and thanks JOW!

2nd Sep 2018 8:06pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
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If you remove the rain separator and do the airbox mod though the results are borderline differences.

Horses for courses really in my view, I am however not a fan of RAI's as they have in my point little purpose.
A Snorkel even if not used as designed which very few will is sealable and as such fit for purpose.
Mine is sealed except for the airbox base drain hole, which A, I could seal if needed. B, is a good drain exit point.
I could seal it entirely but personally I'd rather have a drain point present than none in case of atmosphere fluid ingress.

You could use a rubber plug too I guess, which would be easy in and out but let's face it how many Puma owners wade that deep! No Guts, No Glory.
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2nd Sep 2018 8:15pm

williamthedog

Member Since: 29 Dec 2012
Location: south wales
Posts: 3441

If you remove the water separator in the airbox it near enough cancels out the snorkels restriction.

2nd Sep 2018 8:16pm

Co1

Member Since: 19 Aug 2018
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 3681

Thanks William, I’ll look at hat first!

2nd Sep 2018 8:21pm

Co1

Member Since: 19 Aug 2018
Location: North Yorkshire
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custom90steve wrote:
If you remove the rain separator and do the airbox mod though the results are borderline differences.

Horses for courses really in my view, I am however not a fan of RAI's as they have in my point little purpose.
A Snorkel even if not used as designed which very few will is sealable and as such fit for purpose.
Mine is sealed except for the airbox base drain hole, which A, I could seal if needed. B, is a good drain exit point.
I could seal it entirely but personally I'd rather have a drain point present than none in case of atmosphere fluid ingress.

You could use a rubber plug too I guess, which would be easy in and out but let's face it how many Puma owners wade that deep!

Thanks Steve, I appreciate the time taken for that level of detail.

2nd Sep 2018 8:22pm

zsd-puma

Member Since: 09 Aug 2016
Location: Kent
Posts: 2720

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black

Swac3 wrote:
Check your insurers, my old one refused to insure ours, I phoned for a simple change of vehicle and had my insurance cancelled.

It depends how you word it. That's a genuine Land Rover one, and probably been fitted from new. In which case you wont need to tell your insurer as it's considered standard. The question you have to ask them is "do you need to know about manufacturer fitted accessories?" every insurer I've ever spoken to says no.

2nd Sep 2018 9:14pm

zsd-puma

Member Since: 09 Aug 2016
Location: Kent
Posts: 2720

JOW240725 wrote:
BAS did some tests and proved the intake does restrict airflow, so unless you need it or particularly like it, I'd take it off. Nice 90!

In terms of real world performance though it's not noticeable having one fitted. - I know because I fitted one, and saw no difference in performance or fuel economy.

About the only thing they'll do is help keep a bit of dust out of your air filter, theoretically it will keep the air filter cleaner for longer which will improve performance in the long term - but again I doubt this would actually be noticeable.

One potential benefit to them, is if you fit a light bar, either on a roof rack or a stand alone one, it gives you somewhere convenient to route the cables down to the engine bay without drilling holes in the roof.

2nd Sep 2018 9:18pm

Maxxed_Ross

Member Since: 06 Jun 2012
Location: Bathgate / North Sea
Posts: 340

zsd-puma wrote:
Swac3 wrote:
Check your insurers, my old one refused to insure ours, I phoned for a simple change of vehicle and had my insurance cancelled.

It depends how you word it. That's a genuine Land Rover one, and probably been fitted from new. In which case you wont need to tell your insurer as it's considered standard. The question you have to ask them is "do you need to know about manufacturer fitted accessories?" every insurer I've ever spoken to says no.

Not always. I had this issue with my Tomb Raider as it had the optional "Extreme" pack which included a Mantec snorkel from the factory.

The insurance took the stance that if it was factory fitted then it was fine, but if it was an optional extra then my insurance would be cancelled. Luckily whoever wrote the Wikipedia page wrongly said it was standard

Oh and that was Adrian Flux, the so called modified specialists

2013 Discovery 4 HSE Lux | 2001 Defender 90 TD5 | 2007 Prodrive RB320

2nd Sep 2018 10:02pm

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