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| lost gringo Member Since: 28 May 2018 Location: santiago Posts: 18   
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i had similar issues with a 2.2 and the last thing i did was use carb cleaner and a q-tip to clean the MAP sensor. thats the one just at the injection module. did not have the same code you mention tho.
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5th Aug 2018 6:10pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8053  
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So it only does it after a prolonged, 30s+ demand of boost? Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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5th Aug 2018 7:27pm |
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| mata Member Since: 24 Jan 2014 Location: Manchester Posts: 153 
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You can drive it for a good hour from cold but once it’s gotten hot enough and been driven hard enough to go into limp, then been reset with a power cycle you can probably get it back into limp mode with less than ten seconds of WOT / full boost. This is with the car heavily laiden, like I said, previous months have been completely fault free with some very hard driving, just nothing sustained for more than an hour to an hour and a half |
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5th Aug 2018 8:15pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6300  
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not sure what the code relates to but just wondering;
how many miles have you done, do you have a remap / egr delete, how do you generally drive - gently or quite hard reason for above is I'm wondering if the turbo vanes are clogged / stiff and therefore not doing what it should. don't recall too many on here but I've had a new turbo for this reason and put it down to driving too slowly in the early years and before the egr delete. |
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6th Aug 2018 8:04am |
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| mata Member Since: 24 Jan 2014 Location: Manchester Posts: 153
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As stated it’s on 140k Miles, has a superchips bluefin remap and has the superchips supplied k and n panel filter.
I’d forgotten to mention until you reminded me, it has a partial egr blank off - a plate with a hole in it. I was on my third egr when the chucka chucka started to sound ill so had my mechanic fit a genuine Landrover egr along with the plate to try and extend its life as much as possible. I wouldn’t have thought this could be related but then the more I read the more I hear of engine management faults being caused by all manner of things...? It’s generally driven quite hard, as if it were a car, which it isn’t. I’ve heard of the turbo vein actuator are becoming loose causing problems and this was something my mechanic noticed but said he’d seen them like that before and didn’t suggest attending to it. |
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6th Aug 2018 8:53am |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6300
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sorry didn't read the last bit.
just wondering how long you've owned it and driven it quite hard? could the turbo vain / actuator has become a little blocked before you became the owner? I believe it's not difficult to disconnect the actuator and feel if it's free moving. the other one of course that might be worth looking at is some of the earlier 2.4s suffered with turbo actuator wiring loom issues. the loom is too tight as it passes over the a/c condenser - does yours have a/c |
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6th Aug 2018 8:59am |
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| mata Member Since: 24 Jan 2014 Location: Manchester Posts: 153
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No problem, I’ve very grateful for your suggestions, I’ll have a look at the actuator in that case.
The car was one owner with 106k largely motorway miles I was told when I bought it off Twisted who’d taken it in part-ex. No reason to believe otherwise as it really didn’t show its miles and the logbook confirmed the previous owner had it from new. I’ve read of the actuator wiring but not examined it as my VIN falls after the recall window. Yes it has AC so shall also unpick the loom and look for damage. |
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6th Aug 2018 9:08am |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6300
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good luck.
not suggesting any of this is related to the fault code but if nothing else hopefully areas that can be eliminated.  |
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6th Aug 2018 9:11am |
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| ian series 1 Member Since: 17 Nov 2014 Location: south Posts: 3127 
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Underboost usually points to Actuator problem,
I’ve had a few repaired over the last couple of years by these guys, http://www.ecutesting.com/ecu_testing__exchange___repair.html Great service, and really quick.  80" 80" 86" 88" 90"
Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered. |
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6th Aug 2018 9:24am |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8053
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so over 30s at full boost cold and it doesnt do it but 30s full boost when hot and it does? Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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6th Aug 2018 11:18am |
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| mata Member Since: 24 Jan 2014 Location: Manchester Posts: 153
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Thanks Ian. I had a look at their website and they have a whole section on Freelander turbo actuators but no mention of them in HE Defender section, I’ll give them a call.
When you say you’ve had a couple rebuilt recently, when and what faults and were the cars exhibiting? Anything like I am experiencing only when hot / after sustained high demand driving? Mat |
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6th Aug 2018 11:21am |
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| ian series 1 Member Since: 17 Nov 2014 Location: south Posts: 3127
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Use the Ford section,
I had a Transit in just before Christmas, symptoms were the same as yours p0299, I spent quite a few hours on it before fitting a good used turbo to see what happened? Problem solved! There was nothing wrong with the turbo itself , so suspected the actuator? It was Sent off for testing, the pcb had suffered some form of heat damage? It’s been fine since that. I had another one done as it had some bad pins on the pcb, where the plug fitted, That was a very intermittent fault, and took some finding!😡 80" 80" 86" 88" 90" Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered. |
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6th Aug 2018 1:01pm |
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| ian series 1 Member Since: 17 Nov 2014 Location: south Posts: 3127
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Taken from their web page...
Send your own unit for rebuild £165.00 (Excludes VAT @ 20%) Return Shipping£8.90 Turnaround time1 - 2 working days Programmingsee details Rebuild Detailsfull details Get Yours Rebuilt PRODUCT INFORMATION Part Numbers: VM No: 767649 / G-59 / G59 OEM No: 6NW009550 / 6NW 009 550 Vehicle Details: MakeFord ModelTRANSIT Engine Size2.2 SpecificationTDCi Year2012 - 2016 Common Faults: Ford Transit power loss and hesitation is often attributed to a fault turbo actuator. When using scan tools on the vehicle fault codes may be found for turbo boost control malfunction. These issues may begin intermittently but will gradually worsen into a permanent state. If I purchase this will it cure my fault? Warranty: Lifetime Warranty*, unlimited mileage Product Code: TUA550G59 80" 80" 86" 88" 90" Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered. |
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6th Aug 2018 2:01pm |
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| mata Member Since: 24 Jan 2014 Location: Manchester Posts: 153
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I’ve spoken to them twice trying to ascertain if this is the same for the 2.4 engine and have been told I I need to find the part number on the actuator when I get back to the car.
Do you know if the turbo and actuator are the same on the 2.2 and 2.4? |
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6th Aug 2018 2:08pm |
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