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Djcla

Member Since: 29 Jul 2017
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 469

LED Lights

I know there are a lots of threads but some are a few years old now and things may have moved on.. The world of LED lights for the defender seems very complex with regards to being UK legal etc.. Anyway i was going to buy a set of LED RDX lights from boltonbits to replace all my lights apart from the headlights as they seems to be well used on here. My next problem is which headlights are people using as i dont want to buy some lights to find they are not fully road legal in the UK. Im sure i saw some somewhere that said they were factory fit and used on some limited edition defenders before going out of production but cant find those now

.. Your thoughts and views would be appreciated..

30th Jul 2018 8:48am

donmacn

Member Since: 06 Nov 2017
Location: Nth Scotland
Posts: 1841

This can be one of these "popcorn" topics...

I'm with you in the sense that I'd rather have something UK road legal. If you use your lights responsibly, then the likelihood of ever being pulled over or spoken to about lighting is minimal, but it's peace of mind.

So for my distance LED spots, and my rooftop LED bars I made sure to get stuff with proper E markings.

Headlights - I haven't done that yet ( so not directly answering your question!) for two reasons. The main one is to do with driving in snow - more of an issue where I am - the standard lights are bad enough for clogging up. LEDs which run cooler would be worse. When someone brings LED lights to the UK/EU market with heated lenses I'll be very keen, though I'd likely wait a couple of years for the price to drop from 'eye watering' to merely 'painful'.

The second reason is that I fitted one of the 'Landreiziger' or 'boomslang' headlamp looms, taking the power direct from the alternator and bypassing the steering column switch and the rest of the 24 year old wiring. This gives +13v at the lights instead of the 11v or so I was getting before - and the improvments to the output of the standard halogens was quite remarkable. This may/may not be relevant to your car.

Just some thoughts for whatever they're worth.

(PS - I fitted the RDX kit too, and I'm really happy with that) Donald

1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong
(The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html )
2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8

in the past..
RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi
1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box
1993 Discovery 300Tdi

not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper...

30th Jul 2018 9:07am

Stu_XS

Member Since: 22 Jul 2018
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 86

2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Aintree Green

The LR factory ones were Nordon Gen 1.

There is also a Gen 2 version. Stu...

2013 Aintree Green 90 XS SW 2.2 Puma

30th Jul 2018 9:42am

Theater

Member Since: 27 Sep 2010
Location: Pisa Italy
Posts: 514

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Galway Green

Re: LED Lights

Stu_XS wrote:
The LR factory ones were Nordon Gen 1.

There is also a Gen 2 version.

NOLDEN no Nordon Marco

Defender 110 "SW" SE Galway Green MY 2009
Ex Defender 90 "SW" S Santorini Black MY 2010

30th Jul 2018 10:17am

mk1collector

Member Since: 17 Sep 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 6769

4x4 overlander sell the nolden gen 1s and 2s Ray
My build thread
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17615.html

30th Jul 2018 10:26am

Djcla

Member Since: 29 Jul 2017
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 469

yeah they are a little out of my league price wise

30th Jul 2018 10:41am

Likeomg

Member Since: 29 Jun 2012
Location: Lake District / Newcastle
Posts: 2638

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Stornoway Grey

They do appear second hand time to time...

Think there was some jw speakers up for grabs a few weeks ago at a good price...

30th Jul 2018 10:48am

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20299

I have the Nolden Gen 1 with pinion light and loom. Superb!

I'd go for the Gen 2 if needed, hopefully not any time soon!

If I was you I'd fit Wipac Crystal, H4 upgrade bulbs and a Land Reiziger loom.

Very good output for a lower budget temporarily. (I've been there!)

Then save over longer term for the Nolden, personally I'd only consider JW or Nolden the latter is my favourite but each to his own and I've never heard of a single problem.

I have the RDX LED light kit, again been excellent not one single issue ever.
I'd recommend the RDX LED Relay too!

These are all 'E' marked and road legal. (Should be BSI in my book.

)

The number plate light, go for the Wipac with SMD chip LED's in it. Others are not good at all. Again no problem with mine at all.

My 90 is using ALL LED on everything now inc light bars interior lights etc.

Perhaps you can tender an upgrade as a Christmas / birthday gift if you feel that it needs or be justified.

It also isn't a bad idea to security mark them either, thieves never know what they might have to deal with this way.

⭐️⭐️God Bless the USA 🇬🇧🇺🇸 ⭐️⭐️

30th Jul 2018 10:51am

Ihod

Member Since: 07 Nov 2015
Location: Berkshire
Posts: 165

I've got the Truck Lite Gen2s from Brendan and am very happy with them (performance and looks exceeded expectations and price point lower than the big name alternatives).

Would recommend.

Click image to enlarge

Also WIPAC clear smoked side/indicator lights and relay. Ian

MY1998 300Tdi 90 Hard Top (Now Soft Top)
MY2015 110 XS SW - Sold
MY2008 110 County USW - Sold
MY1962 Series IIa Truck Cab - Sold
MY1994 300Tdi 90 Hard Top - Sold
MY2001 TD5 90 Truck Cab - Sold

30th Jul 2018 12:08pm

Theater

Member Since: 27 Sep 2010
Location: Pisa Italy
Posts: 514

The Nonden are the Top !

…...but the Truck Lite Gen2 are very good !

Paddock has tne Truck Lite Gen2 at a good price :

http://www.paddockspares.com/trucklite-7-d...-pair.html Marco

Defender 110 "SW" SE Galway Green MY 2009
Ex Defender 90 "SW" S Santorini Black MY 2010

30th Jul 2018 1:39pm

Djcla

Member Since: 29 Jul 2017
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 469

i saw there are some RDX headlights on BOB site on ebay but only ip67 rated but claim to be UK legal etc , cant find any reviews on them though. decision decisions but loads of great info on here thank you.

30th Jul 2018 1:46pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20299

Yes, be very careful regarding the IP ratings.
Putting output aside, moisture ingress is one of the root problems and was with I believe early Gen JW Speakers.
(Anyone correct me if I'm wrong?)

The choice really is yours. I have colours on the rear Clear at the front XS style and black Nolden.

Don't forget side repeaters too.

⭐️⭐️God Bless the USA 🇬🇧🇺🇸 ⭐️⭐️

30th Jul 2018 1:55pm

Djcla

Member Since: 29 Jul 2017
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 469

Going clear RDX all round Inc repeaters and wipac number plate light.. headlights can wait.. I was very restrained at Kelmarsh and only bought light guards for them lol

30th Jul 2018 1:58pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20299

What headlights do you have now? ⭐️⭐️God Bless the USA 🇬🇧🇺🇸 ⭐️⭐️

30th Jul 2018 1:59pm

Djcla

Member Since: 29 Jul 2017
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 469

just the standard post 2002 ones which do the job i just fancy going 100% LED's.. I spent to much time wondering the Defender car park at Kelmarsh Show getting inspiration lol.

30th Jul 2018 2:02pm

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