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toetankh



Member Since: 05 Aug 2015
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Netherlands 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
Steel Wolfs or standard Boosts on expedition camper?
All,

Our 110 expedition camper now sits on Boosts with 235x85x16 BF Goodrich KO2's with about 40.000 k's on them.

I now have the opportunity to buy a set of 5 Wolf steelies with 255x85x16 BF Goodrich KM2's on them with about 5.000 k's on them.

The camper is quite heavy: 2700 kgs at least.

What would you do (it's actually 3 questions in one....)?

- Wolf or Boost?
- Mud or AT?
- 255 or 235?

Usage: mostly holiday's: Albania, Romania, Scandinavia, etc. About 50% on road / 50% offroad.

Thanks!
Post #714225 24th Jun 2018 6:24pm
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CarMan



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No question in my mind - Wolfs with the 255's Thumbs Up Rob

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Post #714226 24th Jun 2018 6:38pm
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leeds



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With that choose I would go for steel with 255 M/T


My logic being if you bend a steel rim at least you stand half a chance of beating it back into shape.

255/85 gives a bigger footprint and a larger diameter tyre hence slightly better ground clearance, ok not much but every bit counts.


Brendan
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Bluest



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
Will 255/85 fit without fouling anything on a standard height defender? 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
Post #714229 24th Jun 2018 6:50pm
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leeds



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We run 255/85/16 BFG M/T on two of our vehicles running on standard suspension without issues.


Brendan
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Bps



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👍 wolfs get my vote
Post #714244 24th Jun 2018 7:37pm
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MadTom



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Czech Republic 1999 Defender 130 Td5 HCPU Baltic Blue
On current Discovery 2 I use 235/85/R16 BFG AT for travelling to Albania and around. For 130 I have 255/85/R16 BFG MT KM2 on Wolf wheels.
ATs are for us enough, as we are traveling mostly alone, so I must be very careful, not to get stuck. "Drobek" = The Small One - Discovery 2, "Blufínek" = The Blue Thing - Defender 130, and for me at least Ford Mondeo Smile
Post #714316 25th Jun 2018 9:29am
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
leeds wrote:
We run 255/85/16 BFG M/T on two of our vehicles running on standard suspension without issues.


Brendan


Me too. What will you do when the KM2 in that size becomes unavailable, which seems to be happening already?
Post #714322 25th Jun 2018 10:40am
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yostumpy



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Confused, are you wanting to put the wolfs on the trailer, or the 110?, if trailer, what size tyres on 110
Post #714333 25th Jun 2018 12:00pm
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yostumpy



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What I mean is, nest keep ALL wheels tyres the same size, for interchangability
Post #714334 25th Jun 2018 12:02pm
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jst



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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
what trailer?

i used to run wolf rims with 255.85s on std Puma 110 suspension. there was slight rubbing at full cross axle on the rear when loaded but it was only the tyre edge catching the inner lip of the mud arch. two mins with a knife to cut the arch out and no more rubbing. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
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Post #714335 25th Jun 2018 12:07pm
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jst



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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
mine with the black wolfs, Tims on boosts. both 255.85s

 Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #714336 25th Jun 2018 12:09pm
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toetankh



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Netherlands 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
Thanks for all the input!
General consensus seems to be Wolfs with the 255's.

Some additional thoughts:
- What about blackwolf's comment on availability?
- What about winter/snow capability of the BF muds?

Or should I keep saving and go for Blindo's Smile

Not easy...
Post #714449 26th Jun 2018 7:24am
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MadTom



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Czech Republic 1999 Defender 130 Td5 HCPU Baltic Blue
MT or AT in winter - never more. Good in deep snow, but big problem to brake or turn on ice or compacted snow. For me only proper winter tires.
On the other side, last winter we had snow only for 1-2 weeks, but few years ago it was 3 month.
With MT in real winter it is fun, but only straight, also in street crossings - only straight. "Drobek" = The Small One - Discovery 2, "Blufínek" = The Blue Thing - Defender 130, and for me at least Ford Mondeo Smile
Post #714465 26th Jun 2018 8:45am
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
I run 255/85 KM2s and find that they are good and most things except ice and hard compacted snow, where you have to moderate your driving style (but you would do this with any tyre, wouldn't you?). I am told that the AT KO2 is markedly better in snow and ice than the KM2, and is probably somewhat better in all tarmac conditions, but it is not as capable off-road, although not bad.

My biggest dilemma is that the the 255/85 size, which I think is the optimal size for a Defender, seems to have fallen from favour. The KO2 is not available in this size, and the KM3 will not be available in this size apparently. I have no idea how long the 255/85 KM2 will remain available, but looking at US forums it already seems to be hard to find.

I can't decide whether to stock up with KM2s now, change to 235/85, or change manufacturer! I like the KM2s a great deal (apart from the irregular wear, which I can live with) and don't really want to change. but equally I like the size.

It would be so much easier if BFG kept the size alive!
Post #714477 26th Jun 2018 9:45am
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