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grafty99 Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: North Devon Posts: 4785 |
Sounds to me if it went like stink then started struggling then it's over boosting and the ECU is limiting power.
I guess sticky wastegate - make sure it is easy to move with mole grips Failing that you may have a failed turbo? 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon 1990 Vogue SE Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200 Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html Instagram http://www.instagram.com/george_grafton |
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27th Feb 2018 1:19pm |
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MadTom Member Since: 10 Sep 2013 Location: Olomouc Posts: 622 |
What about wastegate stuck open? Did you try to move it manually? "Drobek" = The Small One - Discovery 2, "BlufĂnek" = The Blue Thing - Defender 130, and for me at least Ford Mondeo
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27th Feb 2018 1:29pm |
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Ears of a Hawk Member Since: 19 Feb 2018 Location: Ayrshire Posts: 10 |
Disconnected the wastegate & inspected. Made sure the wastegate mechanical mechanism was easily moved and the actuator was working. It just isn't getting up to the required pressure to actuate the wastegate.
If you read the rest of the thread - there was definitely an big event. It just seems funny that it is running ok but just not getting enough boost. |
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27th Feb 2018 1:32pm |
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mk1collector Member Since: 17 Sep 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 6769 |
Split intercooler maybe?
Edit: sorry just re-read your first post. Ray My build thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17615.html |
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27th Feb 2018 4:08pm |
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roel Member Since: 08 Aug 2009 Location: Lelystad Posts: 2039 |
Do you measure the boost while driving or just reving stationairy? You need load on the engine to really get boost pressure. I am not sure what mine gives just reving but it is very low maybe 0.3 bar max. Full throttle 3rd gear I get to about 1.25 bar. Roel
1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001) 1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009) 2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts. 2003 90 Td5 (2009-now) |
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27th Feb 2018 4:18pm |
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geobloke Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 4410 |
Hi EoaH. When you did your boost check with the Nanocom did you do it by just revving the engine at standstill? If so that would explain the low boost pressure. Testing boost should be done in vehicle, choose a nice long hill and starting in 3rd accelerate up it, same in 4th and see what the nanocom records. Best done with an engine up to temperature. As for checking your exhaust manifold, usually there are tell tale signs of soot emanating from the mating surface where the system is not sealed anymore. It will look like this; Click image to enlarge You many also hear a rasping noise at certain speeds as the exhaust gasses vibrate the manifold gasket. |
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27th Feb 2018 4:25pm |
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dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554 |
Is fuel presser good i.e. 4bar
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27th Feb 2018 4:29pm |
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Ears of a Hawk Member Since: 19 Feb 2018 Location: Ayrshire Posts: 10 |
Just to bring this thread up to date. I have replaced the MAF. This had an immediate improvement on the low end power. However, the top end power was still rubbish. Drove around with the Nanocom on the vehicle to view what was happening live. I found that I was not getting enough boost pressure.
Adjusted the wastegate actuator in increments and got it up to 0.9 Bar. However, it still did not react well at top end power. After a review of the EGR removal fitment instructions I realised that during the previous visit to get the injector seals replaced, the mechanic had refitted the EGR modulator connector. This was causing the erratic running at the top end. So the lesson is buy a Nanocom and never take the obvious for granted. The truck is running well again. I do have another question though? Is 0.9/0.95 Bar boost pressure correct for the standard setup? When manually adjusting the wastegate actuator, I found that the boost would not go up passed this. Should I be able to take this up to 1.1/1.2 bar and the ECU not limit it? |
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26th Mar 2018 11:48am |
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geobloke Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 4410 |
Hi EoaH. Standard boost pressure should be between 1.0 Bar (at the turbo) depending upon what your map is and more importantly how much work the engine and turbo have done.
Standard turbo settings show about 13 threads exposed on the actuator before the locknut. Reduce the number of threads to increase the resistance on the wastegate actuator and raise the boost. If you are not getting 1 bar boost at all then it is possible that there is something wrong with the diesel fuelling side of the equation. Either the fuel pressure modulator, fuel pump, fuel filter housing or the injectors (seals or units). Just a thought. What is your elevation above sea level? It does have an effect if you are setting your boost pressure at altitude. |
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26th Mar 2018 2:40pm |
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