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L110CDL

Member Since: 31 Oct 2015
Location: Devon
Posts: 10756

Every day V8.

Hi all
As the government has us in limbo over how they are going to penalise diesel vehicle owners, i'm trying to be one step ahead as in when my engine finally goes to the landy heaven, what to replace it with

I am very much old skool and dont like a lot of electrics, but at the same time they are good for the Td5 engine, so i have thought what diesel engine i would put in, so that leaves the petrol engine, as many of us would love a V8 it's the running costs that is a big negative

My question to you is that are there any members on here that use there V8 landy for every day use and has the V8 you put in been reliable ? As some of you know i do a lot of miles as millie is a worker, so i would like a V8 that will be able to cope with the miles, be reliable and some sort off economy will help

i dont have a big budget for a Wildcat etc...... conversion so i will have to see whats out there

Thank you for your time reading this and your reply

1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.

Keeper.

Clayton.

1st Feb 2018 8:37pm

Stacey007

Member Since: 25 Sep 2015
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 3751

Hello

no idea on if its possible but my dads old range rover was a TdV8, he got between 30 / 35 mpg and it could move when needed. Would that fit in a Defender? best of both worlds a V8 and MPG over the teens

Then looking for electric motors for my lads toylander I was surprised at the searches back, Lexus 450H engines, 3.5 V6 but battery also... Had me thinking...could that fit a defender?

I'm sure most things are possible its down to ££

1st Feb 2018 8:51pm

oneten110

Member Since: 02 Jul 2011
Location: Wish I was still in France
Posts: 741

Yes had a V8 and used it as a daily drive, briefly, when I was doing 35,000 miles a year. It was costing more to run than I was getting paid so that didn't last long.
However I put the V8 back in it again and now it is my only car, has done 60,000 miles, since I put a V8 back in, without having a spanner on it other than to replace oil and filters.
The only suggestion I would make is to see if you can find a 4.2, much nicer to drive than a 3.5. If I drive it gently I can just about scrape 20 to the gallon from it. If I don't pay attention it dips to around 17 and if I do a lot of town work it gets about 14.
Loading it up doesn't seem to bother it, neither does towing a trailer, headwinds are a killer though, economy drops markedly

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1st Feb 2018 8:59pm

Slideywindows

Member Since: 09 Sep 2016
Location: North Essex
Posts: 1283

Well, you could always do what the factory did (occasionally):

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2.5 petrol, low tech and sort of economical.

If it didn't accelerate like a slug on diazepan, I would recommend it.

1st Feb 2018 9:00pm

JeremyJ

Member Since: 16 Nov 2011
Location: Aylesbury
Posts: 1758

I run my 3.9 V8 every day, love it!

Remember the Rover V8 is an old lump so really needs a good overhaul/ rebuild. My current lump is proving reliable but could do with a freshen up.

Fuel economy is rubbish but I really don’t like diesel so I live with it

1st Feb 2018 9:07pm

L110CDL

Member Since: 31 Oct 2015
Location: Devon
Posts: 10756

Thank you all for your reply's, a lot of thinking to do

1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.

Keeper.

Clayton.

1st Feb 2018 9:53pm

bankz5152

Member Since: 02 Feb 2017
Location: South London/North Kent
Posts: 2169

I've had the exact same thoughts myself. After a bit of research it came down to the Toyota/Lexus 3UZ-FE 4.7 V8. From what I've read a very reliable engine, VERY tunable and returns decent-ish MPG (25 - 35mpg, so TD5 MPG) Plus seems to have a similar torque curve as the TD5 which is a big bonus in a Defender.

Reasonable power output too sitting at around 350bhp and 500nm which keeps it sensible both power & money wise. Syncro Gearboxes do an adapter plate for the R380 for the 1UZ (which is very similar to the 3UZ) which means the engine will bolt to the R380. So no super expensive gearbox/TX box to worry about nor the fitting. Equally with the reasonable power levels the standard drive train should be up to the task, at least for a while, if you don't drive with a lead foot. Otherwise off the shelf bits & Syncro Duraspec boxes would up to the challenge.

Should you want to go full blast one day, there are bolt on superchargers/twin turbo kits and the engine can produce 500bhp+ with ease.

Engines are available for £800 - £1.5k depending. Shall be the route I go down if my TD5 goes bang or I'm taxed out of owning a diesel.

1UZ conversions have been done many times in Defenders for challenge trucks and buggys, much cheaper engine (£500+) but different torque curve much higher up the rev range. So a lot of the hard work has been done

1st Feb 2018 9:53pm

L110CDL

Member Since: 31 Oct 2015
Location: Devon
Posts: 10756

Hi bankz5152, thanks for your info, i have heard/read about the toyota/lexus engine in defenders and always with positive outcome

is this a diy job or are there people out there that specialise in this conversion ? 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.

Keeper.

Clayton.

1st Feb 2018 9:59pm

GREENI

Member Since: 22 Aug 2010
Location: staffs
Posts: 10382

I wish I could drive mine as a daily..... We'll have a v8 in our daily soon.

Watching with interest Clayton.

1st Feb 2018 10:00pm

L110CDL

Member Since: 31 Oct 2015
Location: Devon
Posts: 10756

^^^ LR ? 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.

Keeper.

Clayton.

1st Feb 2018 10:10pm

GREENI

Member Since: 22 Aug 2010
Location: staffs
Posts: 10382

Not this year, next ...(though stranger things have happened) but LS.

1st Feb 2018 10:12pm

JOW240725

Member Since: 04 May 2015
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 7906

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey

Interesting reading

James
MY2012 110 2.2TDCi XS SW Orkney Grey - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic43410.html
MY1990 110 200TDi SW beautifully faded Portofino Red - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post743641.html#743641
MY1984 90 V8 Slate Grey - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post744557.html#744557
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1st Feb 2018 10:21pm

L110CDL

Member Since: 31 Oct 2015
Location: Devon
Posts: 10756

^^^ It is James

Thanks GREENI

1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.

Keeper.

Clayton.

1st Feb 2018 10:58pm

dorsetsmith

Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: South West
Posts: 4554

Slideywindows wrote:
Well, you could always do what the factory did (occasionally):

Click image to enlarge

2.5 petrol, low tech and sort of economical.

If it didn't accelerate like a slug on diazepan, I would recommend it.

low tech

to fix lest part to fall i.e. VCV. EGR. ABS. and so on

2nd Feb 2018 7:42am

bankz5152

Member Since: 02 Feb 2017
Location: South London/North Kent
Posts: 2169

L110CDL wrote:
Hi bankz5152, thanks for your info, i have heard/read about the toyota/lexus engine in defenders and always with positive outcome is this a diy job or are there people out there that specialise in this conversion ?

Not seen any advertised in the same way as the LS jobs but there will be companies out there that will do it. (4x4 fabrication will) considering its not as complex as an LS swap I would probably have a go myself.

1UZs are very popular as a very cheao engine and still pretty decent

2nd Feb 2018 7:55am

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