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Harryb450

Member Since: 11 Dec 2011
Location: over yonder
Posts: 283

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black

Headlights

I got in the landrover to leave work tonight flicked the sidelights on grand, then the the headlights - dipped Beam and nothing it’s not the main small light switch as I have tried a new one and still no light, all the other lights work apart from dipped Beam, main doesn’t work when the stork is pushed forward but when you go to flash they work, if I pull the flash stork to me just a little I get dipped Beam, then if I give it a bit more main Beam comes on. Am I right on thinking that I need a new indicator/main Beam/ horn switch? I’ve riggled the connectors on the back of the headlights but it wasn’t that. Forgot to say it’s a 2011 110, Thanks, Harry NO ROAD..........EXCEPT FOR LANDROVER

19th Dec 2017 7:58pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4795

Sounds like the pink (headlight) relay behind the dash has failed. same happened to mine except when switching from main to dipped beam which was interesting

2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE
Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200
Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html
Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html
RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html
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19th Dec 2017 8:16pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4795

It is possible to bridge the terminals with wire and a couple of spade terminals as a get you home fix

19th Dec 2017 8:17pm

Harryb450

Member Since: 11 Dec 2011
Location: over yonder
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Which terminals do I have to bridge? Where abouts is the pink relay behind the dash?Thanks, Harry NO ROAD..........EXCEPT FOR LANDROVER

19th Dec 2017 8:28pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4795

I'm not sure on a puma, there is an image somewhere I've seen. I'll see if I can find it

19th Dec 2017 8:29pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4795

Stolen from a previous thread on here. It is the dim dip relay but it does affect the normal headlights

Click image to enlarge 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE
Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200
Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html
Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html
RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html
Instagram http://www.instagram.com/george_grafton

19th Dec 2017 8:32pm

Harryb450

Member Since: 11 Dec 2011
Location: over yonder
Posts: 283

Where abouts are these on a 2011 puma, I can’t find mine behind the dash. Thanks, Harry NO ROAD..........EXCEPT FOR LANDROVER

19th Dec 2017 8:59pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4795

I'd have thought behind one of the flaps either drivers or passengers footwell. But I'm not sure as I never looked when I had a puma 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE
Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200
Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html
Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html
RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html
Instagram http://www.instagram.com/george_grafton

19th Dec 2017 9:02pm

ickle

Member Since: 22 Jul 2010
Location: South Vendee
Posts: 1820

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Alpine White

I don't think there is either a dim dip relay or a headlight relay on a puma, hence the column switches fail.

New column dip/main indicator switch and one of the advertised headlamp loom upgrades probably required.

HTH

Keith

19th Dec 2017 9:14pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4795

Some puma's definately have dim dip

19th Dec 2017 9:18pm

Harryb450

Member Since: 11 Dec 2011
Location: over yonder
Posts: 283

Problem solved 😁 my suspicions were correct, it’s the flash/ indicator/ horn switch the plastic has melted and is keeping the contacts apart, bent the contacts slightly to get me back on the road while I get a new switch. And yes just to clarify I did find the relay that’s in question and tested it but all was well, it’s in the fuse box under the dash. thanks, Harry NO ROAD..........EXCEPT FOR LANDROVER

Last edited by Harryb450 on 20th Dec 2017 7:23pm. Edited 1 time in total

19th Dec 2017 9:32pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4795

Nice one

19th Dec 2017 9:40pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17598

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

Symptoms are conclusive that it's the dip/main/flash stalk switch.

Pumas without headlight level adjusters (ie all the early N1 type approved vehicles) had the abhorrent dim dip feature, the relay is in the fuse/relay panel above the driver's feet and the resitor is under the osf wing.

19th Dec 2017 10:44pm

zsd-puma

Member Since: 09 Aug 2016
Location: Kent
Posts: 2720

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black

ickle wrote:
I don't think there is either a dim dip relay or a headlight relay on a puma, hence the column switches fail.

Keith

Non-Dim dip ones also have the relay, however all it does is cuts the power to the headlights when you turn the ignition off.
Whether you have Dim-dip or not the full power still goes through the column switch.

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the abhorrent dim dip feature

Just think, when we leave the EU the UK Department for transport will be free to reintroduce crap features like that. Originally the DfT wanted all cars in the UK to have dim-dip, the EU overruled them as it would have introduced disparity between europe wide type approvals, hence you don't find it on any cars built outside of the UK.

19th Dec 2017 11:18pm

Harryb450

Member Since: 11 Dec 2011
Location: over yonder
Posts: 283

Just for future reference, does anyone know what the other 6 relays are for in the dash fuse box? I have a diagram for the ones under the drivers seat. Thanks, Harry NO ROAD..........EXCEPT FOR LANDROVER

20th Dec 2017 1:16pm

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