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inthedesert

Member Since: 07 Mar 2011
Location: ireland
Posts: 19

water getting in

Hi all, my 2008 hardtop is going back to the dealer to try to solve where the water is getting in. As the dealer has failed to solve this I would like to ask for some advise. The water seems to collect in the roof liner and runs down from the top of both front doors when cornering (roundabouts are a favourite).

Also, the warranty is due to run out soon. Is there anything else I should ask them to look at?

Many thanks.

7th Mar 2011 12:17pm

Matt

Member Since: 28 Feb 2011
Location: Aylesbury, Bucks
Posts: 180

2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Corris Grey

Its not condensation building up between headlining and roof is it, and running down?

My hardtop is only basic spec so only headlining in front section i.e. not over loadspace, but the amount of condensation that appears in the back is sometimes unbelievable. It almost rains in the back of mine during the winter, meaning anything in there needs covering over, to stop it getting wet!!!

7th Mar 2011 6:52pm

JSG

Member Since: 12 Jul 2007
Location: Berkshire
Posts: 2412

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

At a guess, the water could be getting in through;

Alpine windows seals,
Sunroof (if you have one) seal,
Cracks in the rain gutter around the roof,
The roof seams.

I have the same in the 90 and have narrowed it down to the roof seam.

There is a water ingress manual about on the web that tells you where to look. John

http://www.hampshire4x4response.co.uk

2011 Tdci 110 CSW XS

7th Mar 2011 8:08pm

holmessato

Member Since: 11 Mar 2010
Location: Milton Keynes
Posts: 27

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

I only get water in the footwells on the passenger side front. After close inspection today I am alarmed to find rust bubbles already forming on the bulkhead under the windscreen to bulkhead seal near the reinforcement bracket. Its still under warantee, but do I trust the dealer to replace this seal without adding further leaks?

7th Mar 2011 10:42pm

inthedesert

Member Since: 07 Mar 2011
Location: ireland
Posts: 19

thanks, I'll have a look today. I can't rule out condensation as it has been pretty bad in the back.

8th Mar 2011 7:36am

double cab happy

Member Since: 01 Jun 2009
Location: merseyside
Posts: 573

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Java Black

i'd say Matt's probably right as series land roves where known for that, saying that it is a defender and it could very well be tracking its way UP from the screen wash for all we know

good look with sorting it

8th Mar 2011 8:49am

Lorryman100

Member Since: 01 Oct 2010
Location: Here
Posts: 2686

holmessato wrote:

I only get water in the footwells on the passenger side front.

Also check that the Heater air intake teets are not blocked. There are two of them and if blocked the heater intake will fill with water and leak into the passenger footwell. Took me ages trying to find where the water was coming from, in the end I found it was blocked teets.

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You can see the part of the heater intake grill (left wing top) in the bottom right of the picture to give you orientation. There are two draining teets arrowed red.

8th Mar 2011 10:46am

stevie

Member Since: 16 Sep 2008
Location: Nottinghamshire
Posts: 246

My double cab had the same problem with water getting in through the roof. The problem was the sealant had cracked in the roof joints. They had to re- seal the roof joints and repaint all the roof. Cured the problem. The joints had cracked the worst on the curve of the roof but also had a crack in the middle of the roof joint.

8th Mar 2011 6:30pm

bpman

Member Since: 21 May 2008
Location: Oslo
Posts: 8069

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

also check the top of the windscreen joint, this was bad on my td5, once sealed desert like

8th Mar 2011 7:34pm

KarlB

Member Since: 08 Feb 2010
Location: Canberra
Posts: 91

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Rimini Red

I have a copy (pdf file) of the water ingress manual. Anyone who wants a copy send me a PM with your email address and its your.

Cheers
KarlB

9th Mar 2011 2:25am

inthedesert

Member Since: 07 Mar 2011
Location: ireland
Posts: 19

Thanks for the help.

I have spent a hour going over the possible causes as highlighted, but I can't see anything obvious. The door seal is wet on the inside near the roof liner and I think there is too much for condensation.

I'll take it in and give them some pictures as evidence. It's in next week so I'll report back.

9th Mar 2011 6:01pm

Grockle

Member Since: 24 Nov 2008
Location: Peak District National Park
Posts: 2266

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green

Lorryman100 wrote:
holmessato wrote:

I only get water in the footwells on the passenger side front.

Also check that the Heater air intake teets are not blocked. There are two of them and if blocked the heater intake will fill with water and leak into the passenger footwell. Took me ages trying to find where the water was coming from, in the end I found it was blocked teets.

Click image to enlarge

You can see the part of the heater intake grill (left wing top) in the bottom right of the picture to give you orientation. There are two draining teets arrowed red.

thanks Brian, I hadn't noticed the l/h teet

2.4 90 XS
1968 1/32 scale Britains 109 Pick up.

10th Mar 2011 4:20am

Eduardo

Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Región Metropolitana
Posts: 2110

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey

Maybe this file can be useful

https://www.defender2.net/gallery/albums/u...cedure.pdf

Cheers Eduardo

MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64'
MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo"

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10th Mar 2011 12:57pm

johnnyturbo2002

Member Since: 21 May 2009
Location: Poniente Granadino
Posts: 371

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Java Black

I had the windscreen seal replaced. problem solved. 2008 Defender 110 60 year Edition (sold unfortunately)
IN the hunt for another Puma for the wifey!
2008 Kia Sorento LX 😁 2.5crdi

16th Mar 2011 4:52pm

inthedesert

Member Since: 07 Mar 2011
Location: ireland
Posts: 19

Firstly, thanks for all the help. The 'Leak procedure' was very helpful.

I droppped the truck in early on Monday and gave them both leak pdf documents and some photographs. I collected it on Wednesday evening.

They have filled the windscreen hinges, the roof seams, the front corner seams and the drain channel seams at the top.

Fingers crossed now.

20th Mar 2011 1:13pm

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