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nakatanenga



Member Since: 12 Nov 2010
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[For Sale] PUMA overheat? We have the cure!
This spacer will move the Visco fan nearer to the radiator and imoroves the airflow. This prevents the overheating situation which occures sometimes in hot areas. Fitting is simple

Available in the UK through www.4x4overlander.com
Rest of the world www.nakatanenga.de

http://nakatanenga-tours.de/shop/system/de...sition1%26

http://nakatanenga-tours.de/shop/article_V...SKODIST%26 WANTED:

SII or SIII in max 1.5k
Post #438271 16th Jul 2015 1:28pm
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Likeomg



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sorry if this comes across as rude

does it really make that much difference?
Post #438273 16th Jul 2015 1:32pm
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munch90



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it isn't to move the fan closer to the rad as such , but puts the fan blades inside the cowling because as standard the blades are half in half out , which can make a bit of difference as air could be sucked in the side as opposed to though the rad
Post #438278 16th Jul 2015 2:05pm
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nakatanenga



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It does make a difference! Scangauge shows upt to 15° C difference WANTED:

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Post #438299 16th Jul 2015 3:22pm
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Projectblue



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Likeomg wrote:
sorry if this comes across as rude

does it really make that much difference?



No, Nakatanenga just spent months on desert expeditions and months in engineering plus thousands in insurance and TUV fees to bring you a piece of metal that does nothing other than allowing them to post an excited 'we have the cure'. I'm left wondering if someone turned around to GlaxoSmithKline and asked the same when they announced they had found the cure for malaria? Rolling Eyes

Sorry, forgive the sarcasm, but Nakatanenga are too polite to respond other than in a positive manner, so I thought I'd do it for them and everyone else. Laughing New project and it's green: www.projectoverland.info
Post #438441 16th Jul 2015 9:17pm
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Eduardo



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Interesting...

15°C less means a lot.
Now we are in the middle of the winter and my motor shows maximum around 90°C-96°C. I don't need it rigth now, but probably I will buy the piece in Oct-Nov.

Cheers! Eduardo

MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64'
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Post #438465 17th Jul 2015 12:03am
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ZeDefender



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@Projectblue

Do you have personal data/experience that it does/doesn't work? It's hard to make an informed decision based on statements alone Confused If there are no negatives, why didn't LR/Ford do it?

Cheers,
Matt Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
Post #438479 17th Jul 2015 6:40am
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nakatanenga



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Erm, say it simple: There are so many improvements which were not made by Rover, British Leyland, Land Rover, JLR, Tata and so on..... WANTED:

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Post #438485 17th Jul 2015 6:50am
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ZeDefender



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Indeed Wink

I was just wondering if there were any user experiences to go on but I guess it's still too new...
Seriously though, can you think of any possible negative effects/situations? I am always interested in improvements, especially when the temperatures are climbing so high around here.
Cheers
Matt

p.s. still loving the aerial - reception is so much better than the original Thumbs Up Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
Post #438657 17th Jul 2015 9:09pm
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munch90



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Wont drop temp below thermostat temp ,
Post #438662 17th Jul 2015 9:32pm
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ericvv



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^^ That's where PEL500110 comes in the game.... You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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munch90



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PEM100990 - Cream is 88° With hard Spring ( standard fitment on defender )

PEM101020 - Black is 82° With Hard Spring ( this one I found ok for colder uk weather , dropped running temp a bit and stayed steady )

PEL500110 - Grey is 82° With Light Spring ( found this one took to long to warm up in uk weather and temp went up and down , GUESS AS I NEVER TRIED IT IN HOTTER CLIMATES . it might be good for hotter climates )

this is what I found after trying all three ONLY IN THE UK , but how you drive , what you tow , outside temp etc may give you different results
Post #438696 18th Jul 2015 7:23am
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Projectblue



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ZeDefender wrote:
@Projectblue

Do you have personal data/experience that it does/doesn't work? It's hard to make an informed decision based on statements alone Confused If there are no negatives, why didn't LR/Ford do it?

Cheers,
Matt


Seriously? Laughing Rolling Eyes

Ok, even if you leave out the design faults they never rectified, there are the engineered to a cost aspects (found in most vehicles). Just look at things like;
Rear door hinges on 110 to increase opening
Rear door stay improved resistance.
EGR blanking

That's 3 without even trying.

Ask yourself this. Would a serious aftermarket supplier, where reputation is EVERYTHING, make a product that was 'Emperor's New Clothes'? Thumbs Up New project and it's green: www.projectoverland.info
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Likeomg



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Projectblue wrote:
Likeomg wrote:
sorry if this comes across as rude

does it really make that much difference?



No, Nakatanenga just spent months on desert expeditions and months in engineering plus thousands in insurance and TUV fees to bring you a piece of metal that does nothing other than allowing them to post an excited 'we have the cure'. I'm left wondering if someone turned around to GlaxoSmithKline and asked the same when they announced they had found the cure for malaria? Rolling Eyes

Sorry, forgive the sarcasm, but Nakatanenga are too polite to respond other than in a positive manner, so I thought I'd do it for them and everyone else. Laughing



it was a simple question having never heard of a puma overheating before. and yes i have experience of multiple puma's in hot climates. maybe not as much as them but.
Post #438768 18th Jul 2015 3:47pm
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ZeDefender



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Projectblue wrote:
ZeDefender wrote:
@Projectblue

Do you have personal data/experience that it does/doesn't work? It's hard to make an informed decision based on statements alone Confused If there are no negatives, why didn't LR/Ford do it?

Cheers,
Matt


Seriously? Laughing Rolling Eyes

Ok, even if you leave out the design faults they never rectified, there are the engineered to a cost aspects (found in most vehicles). Just look at things like;
Rear door hinges on 110 to increase opening
Rear door stay improved resistance.
EGR blanking

That's 3 without even trying.

Ask yourself this. Would a serious aftermarket supplier, where reputation is EVERYTHING, make a product that was 'Emperor's New Clothes'? Thumbs Up


Apologies. I didn't think asking for more information, forum members' experiences etc. would hit a nerve.
In any event, don't be too näive - I've had a few "lemon" products before now from various suppliers (but I'll not mention those...)

Matt Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
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