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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17372   
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There is no difference between the TD5 and Puma as far as a transfer box oil change is concerned.
There are threads on here which show the location of the filler and drain plug holes (the filler is awkward to get to since it is above and nearly behind the handbrake drum). Procedure is essentially as follows:- 1) Drive the vehicle far enough to get the oil properly warm (ideally not to hot for H&S reasons though) 2) Clean the areas around the drain and filler plugs 3) Remove the filler plug 4) Loosen the drain plug 5) Place a suitable container under the drain plug, and remove the plug 6) Go for a coffee while the oil drains (leave it 10 mins or so for all the oil to drain out 7) Clean and replace the drain plug (some people say put sealant on the threads, but it is a BSPT thread so doesn't really need it) -) Step 8 is intentionally blank because the editor turns the number followed by a bracket into a stupid smiley face 
9) Fill through filler until oil level is up to the bottom of the hole. 10) Replace filler plug 11) Test drive and check for leaks afterwards 12) Dispose of old oil at local authority recycling centre (can be combined with 10 if your LA lets in Landrovers) You will find that filling is much easier if you invest in some for of pump action dispenser, since it is really difficult to fill from an standard gear oil canister due to the location. You may also find it worth leaving the new oil in a warm place such as the airing cupboard overnight beforehand to make it easier to pump/pour. Also when draining keep the catch container as close to the drain hole as possible, and don't attempt the job out of doors on a windy day. The reasons for this advice should be fairly self-explanatory! It is a very simple job and should take no more than 1/2 an hour. Last edited by blackwolf on 21st Nov 2017 11:34am. Edited 1 time in total |
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21st Nov 2017 11:33am |
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| geobloke Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 4410
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This may help - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ5VBlONZG4
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21st Nov 2017 11:33am |
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| bluebottle Member Since: 08 May 2015 Location: Not in my Landy enough! Posts: 705
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Thank you both - blackwolf, thanks particularly for the indication that the boxes are pretty much the same. I hadn’t gleaned that from my previous reading.
Looks like a visit to the Opie Oils website beckons then... |
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21st Nov 2017 12:52pm |
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| Vogler Member Since: 02 Nov 2014 Location: Brussels Posts: 309  
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Nothing to add, but for a newbie it's worth underlining that you should absolutely undo the filler plug first. Otherwise you might find yourself with a drained transfer box and no means to fill it if the plug doesn't bodge.
J |
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21st Nov 2017 1:21pm |
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| bluebottle Member Since: 08 May 2015 Location: Not in my Landy enough! Posts: 705
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Right, finally did this today - posted on the My Defender thread as well, but I’m slightly concerned...
Capacity according to the manual is about 2.3l. I got less than 2litres of old oil out, query how it was so low - there don’t appear to be any leaks and I don’t think it’s the sort of system where the oil is burnt off or anything? Is the shape of the sump such that nearly half a litre of oil could be in there without draining? The vehicle was as near to level as I could get... Did the Garage just under fill when they put the ‘box in? Pumped in about 2.5l (including the spillage into my own hair when the pipe slipped out of the fill hole  ) so fingers crossed it’s all good. 
By the way, torques for the fill and drain bungs are apparently 30nm each. This is tricky with the filler bung as there is a component fouling the straight line of access so you need an adapter or very short tool to get in there, or carefully drive the torque wrench at an angle as I did. |
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22nd Dec 2017 10:39pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17372
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If there was no sign of leakage it is likely it was underfilled. It is perhaps possible that an output flange or output flange oil seal has been replaced and the loss not made good. Most likely not filled correctly though.
Torque figures for things like drain plugs and filler plugs are only useful for people (such as those employed by main dealers as mechanics) who have no mechanical aptitude and little common sense. I have never used a torque wrench on a filler or drain plug, taper or parallel, and it wouldn't cross my mind to do so. Just be sensible and don't overtighten them. |
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23rd Dec 2017 11:24am |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2757
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When l drained my TD5 transfer box only 2 litres came out, and l only managed to get 2 litres back in. As for torque settings l just tightened the filler and drain plugs until they were tight enough not to come loose.
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23rd Dec 2017 2:36pm |
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| bluebottle Member Since: 08 May 2015 Location: Not in my Landy enough! Posts: 705
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On torque settings, I happen to have a torque wrench anyway so I figured might as well...
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23rd Dec 2017 6:38pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17372
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It certainly does no harm, and there are some occasions when a torque wrench is essential, but for much of the time good old common sense is just as good.
Glad you got your oil change sorted. One of the nice things about the Defender is the ease with which repairs can, on the whole, be undertaken. I just wish they weren't needed quite so often!  |
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23rd Dec 2017 6:55pm |
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| Lou Sparts Member Since: 15 Apr 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 1501 
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I find it easier to get the oil into the gearbox or transfer box like this, using a length of half inch pipe and Mrs Sparts best jam making funnel. Saves all that faffing about squeezing bottles underneath.
 Click image to enlarge 2005 Td5 90 XS Steve |
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28th Dec 2017 6:39pm |
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| dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554 |
this works with gearbox or transfer box, rear and front axel too see be low, main gear box oil not same but i.e MTF94 and oil volume is height
http://www.discovery2.co.uk/transferbox_oil.html |
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28th Dec 2017 8:12pm |
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| geobloke Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 4410
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I have literally just finished the oil change on Miffy. I use a set of Oil Safe containers and they are simply fabulous. they make the job so simple and clean. Cannot recommend them enough.
Opie oils sell them - https://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-1763-oil-safe.aspx |
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28th Dec 2017 8:54pm |
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| dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554 |
^^^^^
 used them at work pay for on work card Last edited by dorsetsmith on 28th Dec 2017 9:34pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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28th Dec 2017 8:57pm |
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| geobloke Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 4410
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I have had this set for nearly 8 years now. Flawless. Not cheap but worth every penny for quick and efficient oil changes. I cannot stand using litre bottles to fill the gearboxes, such a faff and waste of effort.
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28th Dec 2017 9:04pm |
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