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nik h



Member Since: 09 Nov 2015
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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Corris Grey
Defender 90 MY 2015/2016 fuel tank size
Great forum, to which I'm new and members with character!

I have read in LR literature that the fuel tank is 60 litres and separately that the 'useable capacity' is 55 litres.

Also, I have read that the low fuel warning beep will go off at 14 litres and seprately that the beep and yellow light will come on when the tank goes down to 17% capacity and will show empty - red at 12%.

At 6 litres the run dry strategy will be invoked.

It would be great to know which of the above LR data is most current.

Appreciated ... and yes I have already used the search function, thank you.

For anyone mildly interested, I have Landmark SW with a few enhancements to make it more liveable for a mainly urban warrior.

Happy New Year to all !

nik h
Post #486715 29th Dec 2015 8:21pm
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JAY BOY



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Wales 
Welcome Nik

I would have no idea but mine takes about 55 quid to fill it plus i have never seen any lights come on as its not the best thing to do with them.Down to a quarter and then a refill.

Enjoy Thumbs Up
Post #486717 29th Dec 2015 8:25pm
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YOLO110



Member Since: 14 Feb 2015
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It's TOO bloody small! Laughing

I will be fitting an additional tank soon... OZ is a pretty big place between stops! Shocked YOLO... You Only Live Once...
Post #486759 29th Dec 2015 10:24pm
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nik h



Member Since: 09 Nov 2015
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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Corris Grey
Hey Guys,

Thanks for the replies - agreed the tank is too small !

Have already fitted a 30 litre additional gravity fed one (inside RH wheel arch on RHD vehicle).

I'm refiling with 68 litres 20 miles into the low fuel zone - when, depending on the size of the original tank & the other info I mentioned, I should be putting in significantly more.

I don't know whether I have 85l or 90l diesel capacity, and why the low fuel warning is coming on 'so early'.

All the best, nik h
Post #486765 29th Dec 2015 10:45pm
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nik h



Member Since: 09 Nov 2015
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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Corris Grey
Defender 90 fuel tank size / warning light
Just to add further flavour to this stultefyingly boring subject to some, I read in an Italian Defender workshop manual that the low fuel warning light comes on at 12 litres.

So now we have the light coming on - officially - at 12 litres, maybe 14, or at 17% of 55 litres, or 60 litres!

This is my first Defender. Hilarious!

Still have only a vague idea of fuel tank capacity - have achieved 30.1 mpg in just over 3k miles ownership - on road, no added heavy weight, Alive Stage 2 remap + Serck intercooler, Conti AT tyres.

nik h
Post #487074 30th Dec 2015 9:59pm
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apt100



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I have had the embarrassment of mis-fueling my My16 90 Embarassed
Filled the tank with unleaded and then realised as I put the nozzle back in the pump.
LR assist sent AA who emptied the tank using the vehicle fuel pump (rather than syphoning through the fule filler etc).
He commented that he took about 55litre out, which I thought slightly odd at the time as it is supposed to be a 60L tank. Obviously the fuel pump can't draw the last 5L.
With hindsight, this probably meant that when he stuck 5L of diesel in to get me going, it was running on a 50/50 mixture?

My low fuel light came on once just as I pulled onto the forecourt and I think it took about 48L to fill. I definitely remember it being less than 50L.
Hope that is of any interest. Thumbs Up
Post #487098 30th Dec 2015 10:49pm
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nik h



Member Since: 09 Nov 2015
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Thanks APT100, yes, of interest.

I can put in 37 litres into the tank 40 miles after the low fuel light comes on. Doesn't seem right?

That's the reason for doing all the researching.

All the best, nik h
Post #487160 31st Dec 2015 8:38am
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mcgiver



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Shocked :shock:also in oz and also aware of the eski sized fuel tank....never go past the first "click" at the pump
as your boots fill up as diesel spews out of the breather.....taught myself that one...
Post #487165 31st Dec 2015 8:47am
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nik h



Member Since: 09 Nov 2015
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Thanks for the tip mcgiver!

You guys in Oz have a great Defender site in aulro.com. I enjoy it. Direct banter.

Would be good too to get some answers - perhaps a request to the UK LR rep - not sure how?

Happy New Year.

All the best, nik h
Post #487273 31st Dec 2015 3:28pm
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apt100



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Just to add to the conspiracy/confusion (delete as appropriate Laughing ) the fuel tank size isn't in the owner manual. If you look in the index it points you to the specification page - but when you turn to that page the tank capacity isn't shown.
edit LR rep was pointed at the thread where I asked that question but didn't address it.
Post #487287 31st Dec 2015 4:36pm
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23GPS



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Both of mine trigger a low fuel light at 12 litres. Still getting used to the reduced range from a 90, but last week it took 51.79 litres to brim it, 20 miles after the light came on. The 110 takes 63 litres brimmed when the light comes on. Keep it simple - poverty spec.
Post #487317 31st Dec 2015 5:59pm
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leeds



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Unfortunately the Defender 90 does not have the choice of replacement main tanks and extra tanks that the Defender 110 has.

To my knowledge there are no larger replacement main fuel tanks for the 90 whereas you can get a 120 litre replacement tank for the 110.

Also there are more tanks listed for TD5 and pre TD5 tanks then for 2.4 and 2.2. Now I will have to do more research to find out if a TD5 tank will fit a 2.4/2.2


Wing tanks are available for the 90, the 30 litre Safari Equip one is about £240

Safari Equip, Front Runner and Long Ranger all list sill tanks for the early 90's however very few tanks listed for 2.4/2.2.




Brendan
Post #487347 31st Dec 2015 6:57pm
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jst



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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
55L for the plastic td5/puma 90 fuel tank
75L for 110 Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #487370 31st Dec 2015 8:06pm
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apt100



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but the confusion comes from LR claiming 60L, such as this page from latest brochure


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edit:
experience suggests 55L
and then as mentioned manual doesn't help
index says see pg 114 for capacity of fuel tank, but nothing on page 114


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Post #487384 31st Dec 2015 8:36pm
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Sadi



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Same problem with Heritage 110: manual mentions a specific page - but then the page does not quote the fuel tank size/capacity.

Have the extra 45l right rear fender Frontrunner tank - should one accept its quoted capacity is correct: the beep and fuel light came on recently - I was within eye contact distance of a service station: refueled to 1'st click/auto shut off and reading was 103 liters.

Light/ beep quoted to come on @ 9 liters/4 gallons (imperial?) - 103+9 = 112L; - 45L add. Tank = 67 liters ... And not the quoted 75 liters in brochures (but not in manual...)

Unless there is some funny algorithm that activates the warning light/beep when you have say 80km left at your current consumption rate - I seem to remember that the light/beep may activate at 80km range (alternatively) - but 9 liters is not always equivalent to that particular range?

This may well be possible by the vehicle ECU. - as a Scangauge +/- Ultragauge are able to give you warnings according to parameters set by the user - still experimenting with this and will comment when more details are available.
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