Kit wrote:

You really can't compare the two at all, the RS6 I was in was an act of god (RS5 should be similar).

They really are like chalk and cheese, the only thing they share is the fact that neither makes any financial sense!

The RS6 was 177k€.

They are entirely differene cars, agreed, but bang for buck I wonder how much value you get out of a premium (not prestige) brand Coupé or Estate when they starting reaching these prices. Porsche, Ferrari, Aston, McClaren etc I get it, but Audi (even though we own one) not really. I'd never look a gift-horse in the mouth and turn down an RS5/6 if offered, and if I was ever in the league to buy one, I'd certainly consider a Porsche-munching estate that I can chuck my bike in.

But if we're honest about what the RS5 actually brings to the party, I don't think it's worth double that of the V8 Defender. It's not iconic, it's not exclusive, it's not (that) rare etc etc and given when and how we can use these performance cars, very few RS5 owners will ever tackle a track day in theirs, or even get to the 155mph limiter, so what do they actually get for their money? An amazing noise, amazing acceleration up to (perhaps) 100mph, four comfy seats, a superb infotainment system and dashes of carbon all over the place. All in a fairly mute package that looks like most other cars. The V8 Defender could offer much the same, (Same sound, similar acceleration, same space and some hooligan spirit etc), but for HALF the price.

So no, you can't compare directly, if someone drove both back-to-back, on a track, fully insured, helmet on, cage in and let loose. But day to day as a traffic light hero, for cruising along the M3 at 90mph, or for someone who loves to rev the engine and 'hear the note' I'm not sure it's worth the difference. The only advantage as I see it would be living with it day-to-day as a Def is not for everyone, and perhaps long-distance driving. But is that worth double for a mass-produced, non-prestige car? Nope. I'd prefer to get the Def specced with a V8 and then buy a Disco4 HSE.  Monsieur Le Grenadier

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oneten110 wrote:

There isn't a car in existence that is worth that amount of money

Certainly no Audi..  2015 110 XS CSW Montalcino Red with Black Pack

Grenadier wrote:

The RS6 was 177k€.

They are entirely differene cars, agreed, but bang for buck I wonder how much value you get out of a premium (not prestige) brand Coupé or Estate when they starting reaching these prices. Porsche, Ferrari, Aston, McClaren etc I get it, but Audi (even though we own one) not really. I'd never look a gift-horse in the mouth and turn down an RS5/6 if offered, and if I was ever in the league to buy one, I'd certainly consider a Porsche-munching estate that I can chuck my bike in.

But if we're honest about what the RS5 actually brings to the party, I don't think it's worth double that of the V8 Defender. It's not iconic, it's not exclusive, it's not (that) rare etc etc and given when and how we can use these performance cars, very few RS5 owners will ever tackle a track day in theirs, or even get to the 155mph limiter, so what do they actually get for their money? An amazing noise, amazing acceleration up to (perhaps) 100mph, four comfy seats, a superb infotainment system and dashes of carbon all over the place. All in a fairly mute package that looks like most other cars. The V8 Defender could offer much the same, (Same sound, similar acceleration, same space and some hooligan spirit etc), but for HALF the price.

So no, you can't compare directly, if someone drove both back-to-back, on a track, fully insured, helmet on, cage in and let loose. But day to day as a traffic light hero, for cruising along the M3 at 90mph, or for someone who loves to rev the engine and 'hear the note' I'm not sure it's worth the difference. The only advantage as I see it would be living with it day-to-day as a Def is not for everyone, and perhaps long-distance driving. But is that worth double for a mass-produced, non-prestige car? Nope. I'd prefer to get the Def specced with a V8 and then buy a Disco4 HSE.

charcoal wrote:

Personally if I had that money I'd get a Normal 110 v8, get a nice rebuilt specced out chevy 350 and do any mechanical or braking upgrades and then you have a fun powerful v8 at a fraction of price.

That sounds like a plan  1993 200 Tdi 90 CSW
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