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Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3479 |
But still feel comfortable driving Tarquin to his finishing school |
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2nd Aug 2024 8:21pm |
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spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4636 |
My kids went to school in a Defender 110. The odd time in a series 111. The other kids thought the series was a "cool" car! 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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2nd Aug 2024 10:48pm |
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Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3479 |
It is remarkable how the classic shape Land Rover is seen as cool by a multitude of generations and classes. From the Farm Yard, to the society event. It just fits in. Not sure any other vehicle has ever made that transition.
I went to school in an 850cc grey Austin Mini van. I was cool because my friends walked to school and we would give them a lift back in the back of the van when it was raining. Yes kids, the 1970’s was a time before health and safety. No one died, she kept a clean licence to her dying day so I guess Mum was vindicated |
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3rd Aug 2024 8:25am |
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lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2698 |
The old Defender was an icon. Anyone including the Queen could be seen in one.
It was loved and recognised worldwide. It won't be replaced. The Grenadier comes close, l don't think anyone will do any better than lneos. Fortunately there are so many old Defenders around, that you can always get one if you want. |
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3rd Aug 2024 9:18am |
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Chicken Drumstick Member Since: 17 Aug 2020 Location: Near MK Posts: 707 |
The Mini I’d say is the same. The classic Mini and even the modern MINI seems to never be out of place no matter what class of society have one. As for 4x4’s. The Land Rovers father the Wrangler is probably the same. Often snubbed in the U.K. for silly reasons. But in almost all other parts of the World they are loved in similar fashion to a Defender. Although firmly much more of a leisure vehicle than a workhorse like the Land Rover. |
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3rd Aug 2024 9:46am |
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Ianb Member Since: 25 Oct 2023 Location: Devon Posts: 379 |
The thing is, other than the Puma defenders, I don't think there is a modern car that garners quite as much response like old cars.
I've had thumbs ups from drivers of old wranglers, older toyotas, series, defenders, etc... but the new Pretenders aren't ones to wave, Ineos owners don't wave (even when I accidentally wave first! ), new wrangler.. I just don't think there are many modern cars that sign up to the fun and games... unless of course those cars are owned by people who also own the forefathers in a garage somewhere. All that being said, I think I may have accidentally flipped the invisibility button on my Defender as 3 or 4 didn't wave back to me today... so if anyone knows where it is, I would like to turn it off again.. The Yeti - 110 Camper https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic90308.html Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@YetitheDefender Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/yetithedefender/ |
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5th Aug 2024 2:00pm |
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TexasRover Member Since: 24 Nov 2022 Location: Paris Posts: 1007 |
Oh yes the 70's I remember we had school field trips where parents with the bigger cars were roped in for transport, stuffing 8-10 kids in the back of the station wagon to visit some zoo an hour's drive away. Or 30 odd kids in a long line on their bikes with only one teacher (Holland) at the front. No-one even for a moment considered the consequences and life was just fine for the most at least. Now field trips are cancelled because no one wants to take responsibility and everyone is nervous about everything. I do feel a little sorry for the current generation, so I always take my kids wild camping making fires, climbing trees swimming in lakes, obviously in the Defender. You can still have fun and just be careful and don't do stupid things. |
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5th Aug 2024 2:23pm |
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blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17311 |
The Wrangler - introduced in 1986 - is not the Land-Rover's father ! The Ford GPW or Willys MB could be considered thus, but more properly perhaps Harold Crist's and Karl Probst's Bantam BRC-40 prototype - created in just 49 days from concept to prototype - should get the accolade as the progenitor of them all. Bantam was of course originally American Austin, thus (at a slight stretch) closing the circle back to Austin-Rover. The CJ series (from which ultimately the Wrangler evolved) was introduced in 1945 by Willys-Overland, the only one of the three manufacturers of wartime jeeps to continue production after the war (which ultimately led to Willys being granted the Jeep trademark) and therefore predates the Series One Land-Rover, it was however a Willys MB which inspired the Wilkes brothers to produce the Land-Rover. Wrangler, huh! |
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5th Aug 2024 3:14pm |
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Chicken Drumstick Member Since: 17 Aug 2020 Location: Near MK Posts: 707 |
Wrangler is the same as LR using the Defender name for marketing. Therefore the Wrangler has direct roots back to the original MB Jeep of WW2.
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5th Aug 2024 5:34pm |
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blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17311 |
I can't say that I follow your reasoning, but it doesn't matter!
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5th Aug 2024 5:57pm |
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lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2698 |
The latest Jeep Wrangler is still a classic live axle 4x4 and is much closer to an old Defender than the new Defender is.
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5th Aug 2024 6:56pm |
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Moo Member Since: 01 Oct 2021 Location: UK Posts: 1329 |
Not sure I'd want to have a crash in a Wrangler though......
https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/jeep/wrangler/34192 Click image to enlarge Eiger Grey MY23 D250 SE with bits. Known as Noddy. |
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5th Aug 2024 7:06pm |
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Chicken Drumstick Member Since: 17 Aug 2020 Location: Near MK Posts: 707 |
Not sure why you don’t follow. It is quite simple. The Willys MB spawned the CJ Jeep (and AgriJeep). The CJ went through evolutions and redesigns but retained the CJ naming. Much the same as Land Rover did with the 88 and 109 through the different Series models. Then instead of calling the next Jeep a CJ something, they gave it a name “Wrangler”. But it is very much just the next evolution of the CJ. Hell, the first Wrangler still retained leaf suspension and shared the wheelbase and much of the CJ7 it replaced. Land Rover basically did the same thing. Arguably as early as 1983 with the introduction of the One Ten. Using words rather than number. And if not then it was the 1989/90 introduction of the brand line of “Defender”. Which shared its wheelbase and many components with the earlier One Ten and Ninety models. Click image to enlarge |
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5th Aug 2024 9:29pm |
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Chicken Drumstick Member Since: 17 Aug 2020 Location: Near MK Posts: 707 |
Yet it is probably many many times safer than a traditional Defender And probably safer than many small cars on sale. Do remember these tests rate crash safety only by crashing into something of the same size and weight. They never say how safe they are if you crash into a hatchback or a super mini. |
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5th Aug 2024 9:32pm |
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