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| MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2432   
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ATF III
edit According to Ashcroft Puma 110" SW ............................................................. Earth first. Other planets later Last edited by MK on 7th Jul 2017 1:17pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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7th Jul 2017 12:48pm |
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| miker Member Since: 13 Sep 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 1766  
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They stopped advising ATF several years ago. Most people now use MTF94, although someone on here (blackwolf maybe?) Is an advocate of something different, (castrol syntrans rings a bell)
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7th Jul 2017 1:11pm |
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| zsd-puma Member Since: 09 Aug 2016 Location: Kent Posts: 2720 
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is the clutch adjusted and bled correctly? That will make a bigger difference than oil if the clutch isnt dis engaging fully.
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7th Jul 2017 3:14pm |
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| dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554 |
R380 MTF94
LT230 EP 80w 90 axle/ Diff EP 80w 90 clutch in good order how meany miles on clock ? at 100,000 my 2003 90 had new clutch, as the old one down to the rivets and clutch pressure plate fingers worn-out and one broken 
now changes gear on good order  |
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7th Jul 2017 3:39pm |
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| MJN110 Member Since: 18 May 2015 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 380 
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What are the latest thoughts on this I find my TD5 does not like 1st to 2nd gear changes for the first couple of miles after that all the changes are good.
This makes me think maybe the oil is to viscous when cold? I see Ashcroft still support ATF Dexron 111 as a better oil will this solve my problem? Has anybody else had good results using ATF Dexron 111 2016 Defender Landmark 90 2005 Defender CSW TD5 90XS |
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21st May 2018 5:44pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17477 
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Not me, I always put MTF94 in my R380. It too is very different when cold compared to warm. When cold 1st to 2nd needs to be very quick, when warm it is a typical LR slow change. I've always found this normal on an R380, it seems to be how they are. To be honest I don't rate the box very highly and think it is possibly the worst gearbox ever fitted to a proper Landrover. The MT82 box is vastly superior but the way it's connected to the engine is dire. There was a time when Landrover knew how to do clutches and gearboxes but that seems to have been forgotten. |
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21st May 2018 6:34pm |
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| Mike c Member Since: 11 Aug 2017 Location: Maldon, Essex Posts: 930  
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Watching with interest, I have recently ordered mtf94 for gearbox and Castrol syntrans 75 90 for transfer box, is this wrong?
Mike |
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21st May 2018 7:29pm |
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| dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554 |
spot on |
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21st May 2018 7:32pm |
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| NickMc Member Since: 01 Oct 2014 Location: Norn Iron Posts: 1632  
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Sure MTF94 is Honda oil just to add to the parts bin.
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21st May 2018 7:40pm |
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| Landlord Member Since: 27 Oct 2009 Location: Hampshire Posts: 582 
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Just done all my fluids
MTF 94 for gearbox Syntrax for transfer box  Click image to enlarge 2007 TD5 90 Hard Top |
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21st May 2018 10:39pm |
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| MJN110 Member Since: 18 May 2015 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 380
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My R380 gearbox has done 65000 miles.
I will try a faster gear change when cold as Blackwolf does as i have tended to try and change slower to avoid the crunch. I agree about the MT82 a shocking amount of drive back lash for a more modern gearbox has anybody driven a transit with this box is it the same? 2016 Defender Landmark 90 2005 Defender CSW TD5 90XS |
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22nd May 2018 5:51am |
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| Mike c Member Since: 11 Aug 2017 Location: Maldon, Essex Posts: 930
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Great, looks like syntrax is the right stuff for the transfer box.
Thanks |
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22nd May 2018 6:11am |
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| zsd-puma Member Since: 09 Aug 2016 Location: Kent Posts: 2720
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The backlash isn’t in the gearbox, it’s in the adaptor shaft between the gearbox and the transferbox, and in the props, and the diffs and the half shafts and the clutch too if that’s worn. The actual ford gearbox is fine, none of the Ford vehicles have the sloppy Land Rover bits on them. Then the extra torque from the puma engines makes all the Land Rover bits including the clutch wear faster. |
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22nd May 2018 6:44am |
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| MJN110 Member Since: 18 May 2015 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 380
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Thank you ZSD Puma for educating me on this issue.
You would think then that somebody would be able to manufacture a shaft with tighter tolerances to partially eliminate this problem for sure it would be a good seller. I agree about the rest of the drive train certainly more stressed with Puma power and torque especially with a BAS 170 tune. 2016 Defender Landmark 90 2005 Defender CSW TD5 90XS |
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22nd May 2018 7:35am |
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