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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8582  
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One of the issues with these types of threads is the lack of actual figures about accidents and age.
Apart from the actual figures you need to look at what is happening behind the figures. It is possible to break down the percentage of licences held by different age groups. Now looking at the over 70's which is the age that under current legislation need to reapply for a driving licence. Just because an over 70 holds a driving licence does NOT mean they actually drive. Now 17-19 year old drivers represent 2% off UK drivers but are involved in 6% of collisions. So on those figures they are about 3 times as likely to be involved in a collision then older drivers. Except that is not the whole story. Young drivers on average do 3,500 miles a year compared to an average of 6,000 miles. So they are about 6 times more likely to be involved in a collision then an older driver. Need to look at
Taken from here OR
Taken from HERE From the US
Now throw age and fatalities into the equation. Is an older driver more likely to die from the same injuries sustained as a younger driver? Quite possible as an older driver is more likely to have other medical issues such as heart problems etc. A good, safe, courteous driver is less likely to be involved in a collision then bad, unsafe, rude drivers irrespective of age Brendan |
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11th Mar 2017 12:15pm |
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| lambert.the.farmer Member Since: 11 Apr 2012 Location: harrogate Posts: 2006  
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This is really the only responsible action to take, not the easiest path to walk but the right one. For all those who think I am being harsh or interfering in something not my business, if I take the easy way out and ignore this persons driving and they set off to come to your town and happen to have some kind of incident involving you or your family will you still be saying that I should have done nothing or will you be baying for blood? Also if my neighbour was a hundred years old and still driving competently I would not have raised the issue. My agenda is not ageism it is the vert specific requirements of my observations of one individual. Oh and 25 years driving and over 600000 miles covered. Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon. |
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11th Mar 2017 1:12pm |
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| flydive Member Since: 27 Aug 2015 Location: Lugano Posts: 290  
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Oh man, did you really take my post seriously  |
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11th Mar 2017 2:45pm |
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| lambert.the.farmer Member Since: 11 Apr 2012 Location: harrogate Posts: 2006
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And what I didn't do was start a thread saying "No one over 70 should be allowed to drive because they are all a liability" . What I did was put a title that succinctly highlighted the point I wished to raise. You have taken my request for advice on one specific individual and attempted to twist it into an ageist rant which it is not. Oh and where have I said I am a good driver? Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon. |
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11th Mar 2017 3:37pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816 
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We have names for people like this. It is a word which is not in my vocabulary, so I had to look up the english translation for "verklikken" and found all the below, one of which is without any doubt the most appropriate for the above statement. To peach, to leak, to denounce, to snitch, to rattle, to blab, to tattle, to blow the wistle. Maybe time to man up, and go talk to them direct about it. Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw Last edited by ericvv on 11th Mar 2017 5:22pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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11th Mar 2017 4:25pm |
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| lambert.the.farmer Member Since: 11 Apr 2012 Location: harrogate Posts: 2006
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And as I am increasingly tired of saying what if you are the victim of my neighbour having an issue behind the wheel, ok not them because they are highly unlikely to venture out to Switzerland but someone else like them, are you still going to be defending their right to drive when unfit to do so if it directly impacts you or your family? Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon.
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11th Mar 2017 4:57pm |
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| gilarion Member Since: 05 Dec 2013 Location: Wales Posts: 5111  
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To be fair it is hard to give an opinion on reporting the driving ability of your neighbour unless the full account of his bad driving is known.
You say you have become increasingly concerned with the standard of his or her driving. Being eligible for a blue badge or waiting for a new hip is not grounds for driving badly. So what else have you observed to justify having your neighbours licence to drive revoked, have they had accidents recently, have you observed the neighbour driving erratically. If you are to report this person you would have to give some sort of evidence and be able to back up the claims you are making, so perhaps you could list these so that we are able to agree or disagree with your judgment on your neighbours driving skill. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at.. http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1 |
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11th Mar 2017 5:03pm |
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| lambert.the.farmer Member Since: 11 Apr 2012 Location: harrogate Posts: 2006
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Without giving enough information on a public forum to allow identification of the individual, they have in the last month to my knowledge driven into my drive 4 times, knocked over both their gate posts, got stuck in a flower bed and creased the rear passenger door allegedly on a trolley park bollard somewhere but I only saw the aftermath not the event. Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon.
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11th Mar 2017 5:24pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816
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Driven 4 times into your drive and got stuck in a flower bed?
Time to 
But if they find out they might put a sign like the one below in their window. You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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11th Mar 2017 5:38pm |
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| gilarion Member Since: 05 Dec 2013 Location: Wales Posts: 5111
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Having read recently about people over the age of 65 drinking alcohol a lot more than they should, perhaps your neighbour likes a couple or more of large glasses of the Scottish wine, either way what you have observed is worrying. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at.. http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1 |
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11th Mar 2017 5:43pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5038 
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do we think the uk is developing a load of busy bodies that dont know how to mind their own business? not just in this thread but generally.
Those in glass houses... The holier than squad are getting a little wearing Mike |
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11th Mar 2017 5:49pm |
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| GREENI Member Since: 22 Aug 2010 Location: staffs Posts: 10383
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IBTL  |
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11th Mar 2017 7:35pm |
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| Sulisuli Member Since: 30 Oct 2016 Location: South west Posts: 4795 
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Lambert having opened the thread and read peoples replies..... What did you plan to do prior to posting and what do you intend to do now? Im not looking to flame the situation just curious and please dont take it any other way. 2015 HT XS 90
2008 SVX 90 2000 XS TD5 90 |
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11th Mar 2017 8:47pm |
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| lambert.the.farmer Member Since: 11 Apr 2012 Location: harrogate Posts: 2006
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Initial thoughts were very conflicted. I was vaguely aware that dvla were able to conduct investigations into fitness to drive but I was not familiar with the process. By turns I was also just for turning a blind eye, not my problem. After all that has been said here I am now certain that a report wouldn't be a waste of my time and would definitely be the right thing to do especially as the ultimate decision is not actually mine to make or enforce, I would simply be raising the awareness of the dvla, they get to choose.
However I am also more inclined to say to hell with it let them drive as they want, why should I care they ain't hurting me and if something does happen, well I asked for advice on a respected motoring forum and as many as not said don't get involved so I didn't. Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon. |
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11th Mar 2017 9:12pm |
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