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| Kit Member Since: 12 Feb 2016 Location: Shropshire Posts: 1110   
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Weapons grade LEDs
 1993 200 Tdi 90 CSW
1956 Series 1 Hard-top 1958 Series 1 Soft-top |
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14th Apr 2017 3:50pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20367
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Not legal though I'm afraid, as you are using a fitting deigned and approved for Halogen headlight bulbs. Unless the 'bulbs' you've fitted are 'E' marked too. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R 🇬🇧ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó ¿ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ³ó £ó ´ó ¿ðŸ‡®ðŸ‡ªðŸ‡ºðŸ‡¸â›½ï¸ðŸ›¢ï¸âš™ï¸ðŸ§°ðŸ’ª |
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14th Apr 2017 5:59pm |
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| Nevillerover Member Since: 14 Feb 2015 Location: Suffolk Posts: 224 
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Fourby says (or at least strongly implies) they they are legal and my local MOT man who is a bit of a stickler says he only checks alignment and colour so he is happy. If I do get an MOT fail, I will demand my money back from Fourby.
Anyway, back to the important news, they are lovely and white and bright and I can see where I'm going now. My roof mounted spots cast what now appears to be a dirty brown light compared to these. On dip there is a bit of a patterning but that's not a problem for me. Next Saturday I will get them properly aligned by my MOT man and of that goes well, will confirm they will pass next MOT. |
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15th Apr 2017 11:14am |
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| Mo Murphy Member Since: 01 Jun 2008 Location: Letchworth Garden City, Herts Posts: 2227 
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It's not an MOT fail that you should be worried about. The MOT is just a safety and roadworthyness test. It is not a construction and use regulations test. Just because it's passed an MOT does not mean it meets the requirements of the regulations.
If you fitted them knowing they may not be compliant with construction and use regs and have an accident involving a fatality, they will go through your vehicle with a fine tooth comb. Watch your insurance company step back from its obligations when it's discovered you have non compliant parts fitted. You must be sure they are legal to cover your own arse. Ignorance is no defence in the eyes of the law. Mo The Land Rover 90 - Many are called, few are chosen. 50 Shades of Pennine Grey |
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15th Apr 2017 11:31am |
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| Nevillerover Member Since: 14 Feb 2015 Location: Suffolk Posts: 224
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I will make your point to Fourby and see what they say.
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15th Apr 2017 3:02pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816  
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This has been beaten to death numerous times on here (a search will yield plenty of threads), but there exist not a single LED light bulb which can be legally used in a standard or cristal headlight which are all type approved for halogen bulbs only. Same applies to xenon bulbs, they are all illegal too. By xenon bulbs I mean a real xenon bulb, not the type approved H4 bulbs filled with xenon gas. The problem with LED or with a real xenon bulb in a H4 type approved headlamp is a real one. Their emitted light comes from a different point than from a real H4 bulb, and the lamp reflector will throw this light forward in a pattern which will irritate oncomers eyes. Nothing worse than boy racers appraching you with such reworked headlights. 
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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15th Apr 2017 3:28pm |
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| ROBBONTHEROCK Member Since: 23 Jun 2014 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 637  
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Hi all,
Just managed to finish wiring up my LED headlights, well, fit the DRL Controller so the halo works. Also managed to fit the new WIPAC light adjuster, and adjusted the pattern, both headlights pointing to the ground when in setting 0. Anyway, a vast improvement over the standard candles. Worth every penny of the £139 i paid for the lights. I bought the lowing DRL controller and fitted it on the passenger side engine compartment area. I also hooked up the ACC wire to the blower power wire (ign sw live), using a scotch lock). DRL Controller used:- http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171836994719?_tr...EBIDX%3AIT [URL=]  Click image to enlarge[/URL] [URL=] Click image to enlarge[/URL] [URL=] Click image to enlarge[/URL] Then I went for a run:- Dipped [URL=] Click image to enlarge[/URL] Mainbeam [URL=] Click image to enlarge[/URL] Took all afternoon to wire up, it wasn't complicated, but i felt that I needed to do it right, i.e. run cables in conduit in discreet areas, fit proper econoseal connectors etc etc. The scotchlock was the only make do connection. Cheers Andy Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated  |
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16th Apr 2017 10:33pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8581
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The MOT is a basic safety check and does NOT check the legality of the headlights. Just because the headlights pass the MOT test which checks they work, the colour and the aim does NOT make them road legal The headlights are obligatory lights and my law have to be type approved which means E marked these days. The standard Defender headlights are made by Wipac and were approved with filament bulbs in. They have NOT been tested and approved with a replacement LED cluster in. Think of it this way, you design, prototype, test, get approval for and manufacture your item. Would you allow someone do a modification that YOU have not seen, tested or approved to be given the OK under your approval which has costed you money? Now that is my view what is the view of a well know recognised light/LED manufacturer.
That is taken from Automotive Lighting FAQ on Osram website here Brendan |
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17th Apr 2017 7:20pm |
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| Enid_Puceflange Member Since: 25 Oct 2014 Location: edinburgh Posts: 1172 
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Hi Andy
Good thread I have just purchased similar lights for my 110 after reading this How are they doing now? 
Cheers bud G My confidence has been writing cheques that my abilities can't cash for years. |
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30th Apr 2017 10:17pm |
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| ROBBONTHEROCK Member Since: 23 Jun 2014 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 637
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Hi,
They are doing fine. Mind you I'm not really challenging them at present. I also bought a 22" light bar for the soft a bar. The combination is excellent 
If I was being truly critical, I'd say the spread of light directly to the sides is not not as good as I'd have hoped (the Headlights only). But with my led combo it's irrelevant. Cheers AndyR |
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1st May 2017 5:56am |
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