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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20487  
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I have gone for the Kay's fasteners option that meets DIN912 which is the same as the specs on Allfix's site for the same bolts.
These are 12.9 as 10.9 aren't readily available unless in large quantities. They aren't tightened to a very high torque as the torque specs in the WSM state and I've gone with A4 SS washers. They should be okay by going with black bolts which aren't zinc / electro plated and the SS washers also. So should keep and Hydrogen issues away and also not corrode too fast. (Hardly at all.)  Click image to enlarge No Guts, No Glory. ๐ฌ๐ง๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ๐ฎ๐ช๐บ๐ธโฝ๏ธ๐ข๏ธโ๏ธ๐งฐ๐ช |
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18th Jul 2018 7:11pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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For not a lot more, you can have a zinc plated version:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M10-10mm-CAP-HE...Z9y_n_09GA Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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18th Jul 2018 8:11pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8097  
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M10 x 1.25 or others? i see M10 (10mm dia) surely they are both 10mm dia Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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18th Jul 2018 8:24pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8097
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i have used screw caps on all my previous vehicles, i torque as specified to 65, i also use RTV and Nord Locs with 12.9 screw caps, just cant recall the thread size currently! Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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18th Jul 2018 8:25pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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Are you talking about whether they are M10 x 1.5 pitch or M10 x 1.25 fine pitch?
 Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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18th Jul 2018 8:48pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20487
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Well I've just gone 1.5 pitch standard.
These: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M10-10mm-HIGH-T...2749.l2649 I cannot imagine them being fine pitch to be honest. No Guts, No Glory. ๐ฌ๐ง๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ๐ฎ๐ช๐บ๐ธโฝ๏ธ๐ข๏ธโ๏ธ๐งฐ๐ช |
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18th Jul 2018 11:01pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8097
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I don't recall them being fine pitch, just interesting they state m10(10mm) or m10 1.25 as the way to differentiate it! Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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19th Jul 2018 5:28am |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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Ah, ok. I think that's just down to the vagaries of eBay advert descriptions. M10 is 10mm regardless of the thread pitch. Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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19th Jul 2018 7:15am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17475 
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The drive flange bolts are M10 ISO Metric Coarse Series, i.e., 1.5mm pitch.
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19th Jul 2018 7:43am |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20487
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Thatโs a relief.
So thatโs the bolt type, size, length and pitch conundrum over. ๐๐ป Iโm guessing that no thread locker is best as mentioned and the spring washer is fine for those purposes. Iโm assumeing that a little copper grease should not be used either. I bit the bullet earlier and bought two pairs of HD flanges and the flange nut tool. Luckily I have plenty of grease thatโs fresh. No Guts, No Glory. ๐ฌ๐ง๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ๐ฎ๐ช๐บ๐ธโฝ๏ธ๐ข๏ธโ๏ธ๐งฐ๐ช |
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19th Jul 2018 2:11pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8097
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i loctite all mine in. I also use Nord locs on LHS side of any vehicle running 33" or larger Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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19th Jul 2018 5:35pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20487
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Bolts arrived today, waiting on the flanges that should be also.
I will also need an 8mm male hex drive bit to suit as well. Best to go 8mm to 3/8โ or 1/2โ female to suit torque wrench? My 3/8โ goes up to 65nm if I recall correctly which should be fine. I looked at the WSM today, and I couldnโt seem to come across the right sections I was hoping to. The only useful info I found was axle oil capacity on a 90 is 1.7L. Iโm considering changing it on the front as the back was done last week. I couldnโt seem to find axle oil drain plug torque figures or info on the halfshafts / drive flanges and torque. I know itโs mentioned on this thread but it would be useful to see the relevant info unless Iโm looking in the wrong sections! No Guts, No Glory. ๐ฌ๐ง๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ๐ฎ๐ช๐บ๐ธโฝ๏ธ๐ข๏ธโ๏ธ๐งฐ๐ช |
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20th Jul 2018 1:33pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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I've never felt the need to use a torque wrench on axle fill and drain plugs. As long as you're not a gorilla, it's easy enough to tell when they're tight enough. Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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20th Jul 2018 2:50pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8097
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i would use 1/2 8mm allen.
ordered bolts yesterday for mine and 4 sets of the HD DM, already have ashcroft shafts fitted. 65Nm is correct. Cheers James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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20th Jul 2018 3:12pm |
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