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roliver



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 ST Tamar Blue
Steering box bracket to chassis bolt - spanner sizes?
Hi all,

I've just bought a Safari Equipment steering guard with 2" receiver and I'm trying to fit it to my Puma defender.

I can't for the life of me work out what spanner size I need to remove the nut/bolt that fastens the steering box bracket to the chassis. I've read somewhere that it's 3/4 AF but I tried with a 19mm this morning which was too big so this can't be right.

Does anyone have any ideas short of measuring the damn thing with calipers?

Cheers,
roliver
Post #595877 24th Jan 2017 1:06pm
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Mash



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Guernsey 1998 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Nato Green
19mm is a close match to 3/4 but still slightly bigger. I would advise a decent socket set for these jobs as they grip the bolt head better and reduce the risk of rounding it. 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html
90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html
110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html
52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html
D3 Hse - Fiona
Capri 2l S - Anna

Think I might have a problem............
Post #595896 24th Jan 2017 2:02pm
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roliver



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 ST Tamar Blue
Hi Mash,

Thanks for the advice. I did have a socket that fitted very well. Unfortunately, the nut is screwed so far onto the bolt that the it's impossible to clip tools to the socket. I may try to get an extended socket for this purpose.

Also, I thought that 3/4 AF was slightly bigger than 19mm? http://www.csgnetwork.com/wrenchsizetable.html I must admit though, I'm absolutely terrible with imperial sizes.

Cheers,
roliver
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Mash



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Guernsey 1998 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Nato Green
Yep your right Roliver, been a busy day in the office. Most bolts on defenders should now be metric. Easiest way to measure it would be using an AJ and a rule. 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html
90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html
110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html
52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html
D3 Hse - Fiona
Capri 2l S - Anna

Think I might have a problem............
Post #595928 24th Jan 2017 4:30pm
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Martin
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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Montalcino Red
If it's the upside-down fork shaped bracket which the Panhard rod attaches too as well, then the two bolts are M12 (two different lengths).

They are flanged head though, so the expected spanner size is reduced from the expected 19mm. They are probably 17mm

Pre-Puma these were 1/2" UNF bolts with 3/4" spanner.

The nut onto the arm which braces the steering box is 1/2" UNF.  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Mash wrote:
... Most bolts on defenders should now be metric. ...


Although most are, even the last off the line still has a healthy mix of history. Strip the front axle (for example) and you'll fine British Standard, Unified, and ISO Metric threads right to the end. Rolling with laughter
Post #595968 24th Jan 2017 6:15pm
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roliver



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 ST Tamar Blue
So bizarrely, after going out and using every similarly sized socket in the set, it seems the bolt head is 15mm (5/16W) was too big) and the nut is an exact fit for 3/8W (could this be 18mm given it's a Puma?).
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blackwolf



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Landrover often uses non-preferred sizes!
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R1200GS



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United Kingdom 2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Keswick Green
Just did this job on mine and used 15mm and 18mm ratchet spanners and sockets.

That's on a 2016 model
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roliver



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Hi R1200GS,

Thanks for confirming my suspicions! I've bought a metric socket set this morning + 15mm/18mm spanners so I'll let you know how it goes and whether or not 2009 Puma is 15mm/18mm too.

Cheers,
roliver
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roliver



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 ST Tamar Blue
Just for the record, 15mm and 18mm did it in the end.

Cheers,
roliver
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R1200GS



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Very Happy
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