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| gilarion Member Since: 05 Dec 2013 Location: Wales Posts: 5111   
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Just a note but if you read the small print and exclusions and endorsements on many car insurance policies (including mine) particularly for Defenders it is noted that unless your vehicle is fitted with a tracker and a cat two immobiliser, then in the event of a theft the company will not pay out.
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16th Oct 2016 12:27pm |
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| mcma1 Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 2900 |
I am having a cat 6 tracker fitted Andy
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16th Oct 2016 2:53pm |
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| Matt90 Member Since: 12 Jun 2016 Location: Leicester Posts: 142  
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Think a tracker is definitely on my list, as is a pedal lock and a insurance approved immobiliser.
How many defenders are taken via recovery truck and therefore bypassing the last two options? And how easy is it for the theif to turn off a tracker? |
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16th Oct 2016 7:15pm |
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| Teario Member Since: 04 Aug 2015 Location: Merseyside Posts: 153 
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From observing the Landywatch Facebook page I get the impression most are driven away. That said, enough of them seem to be trailered/towed away to make it a concern.
Tracker definitely is a good one to put your mind at rest. Even with the security on mine, I don't like to leave it anywhere it's going to be potentially vulnerable for too long. Prime example, gf says she wants to go to the fireworks at Alton Towers this year. We did it a few years ago and my only concern about the car I had then was.. these parking spaces are tight, hope the person next to me doesn't ding my door (of course they did). This year my first thought was.. is the car even likely to still be there when we get out? At least if you have a tracker you can keep an eye on it, get geofence alerts etc. Maybe I just worry too much though. Right now I'm in the middle of making a tiny home made pressure sensor to hide under the path, so if the car is rolled from drive I'll get an alarm on my phone. |
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17th Oct 2016 11:39pm |
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| taffrican Member Since: 14 Jan 2011 Location: Living room Posts: 624 
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I have the X-eng pedal lock on mine, along with a disc lock and a skytag tracker.... I fitted the pedal lock up tight so when it is locked the brakes are on, don't know how effective the brakes would be without the engine running but I suppose every little helps
I read an article somewhere that says that "most" Defender thefts are bog standard Defenders as kitted out ones are very noticeable and stand out, theiving pikey b**tards don't like sticking out, apparently.... so buy as many bolt ons as you can fit  Optimists say the glass is half full..
Pessimists say the glass is half empty.. Engineers say the glass is twice the size it needs to be! |
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2nd Nov 2016 8:19pm |
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| tolley Member Since: 07 Nov 2011 Location: gloucester Posts: 1115 
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2 taken from Gloucestershire in the last 3 days , reg AO54 CZE locked no keys in it 8pm , 2nd taken , day before 7pm DX54 MKN , same again no keys left in it .
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1st Dec 2016 8:24am |
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| defender9 Member Since: 12 Mar 2016 Location: Fylde Coast Posts: 1629 
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You can have as many bolt on security items as you like, and yes it's a good idea to have them but a few years ago there were Defenders in Lancashire and Yorkshire that were being nicked by being lifted onto a Hiab and carted away. One garage which was targeted now use huge steel clamps on the wheels that are embedded into the concrete.
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1st Dec 2016 9:50am |
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| petestaunch Member Since: 19 Nov 2016 Location: Wales Posts: 65 
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I only got my Defender last week. It has some sort of alarm and immobiliser on it. They even seem to work sometimes!
I bough an 'ardcase. It's heavier than the Defender. Just ordered Smartwater. I try not to park it anywhere even vaguely suspect. If I go to the city centre it goes in the car park with cameras and exit only with the ticket with the vehicle number plate on it. I have a Staffordshire Bull Terrier in the back quite a lot. He looks mean, but he'd probably befriend any potential thief and be abducted himself. |
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1st Dec 2016 10:11am |
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| arran jones Member Since: 21 Nov 2016 Location: south west Posts: 726
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I've got a momo steering wheel with a detachable boss, and a steering wheel lock for times when u don't want to take off the actuall wheel!!!!
But I'm still scared, any other good ideas, How do u get a alarm fitted and where do u buy one from I've got a 2009 defender 90 Pick up??!! |
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1st Dec 2016 10:54am |
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| X4SKP Member Since: 29 Nov 2013 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2295 
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Hello All
I would like to present a philosophical observation here... 
I do so in all seriousness...3 years ago I joined D2N and it has been invaluable in contributing to the experience of owning my Defender...I wouldn't drive anything else, (unless LR gets the replacement right). Security, as we all know, is always there 'in the background'...and the more you read the more 'motivated' (even paranoid) you can become, to do what you can to address this. That said, you don't read on here, or generally, someone posting...'another day and my Defender is exactly where I left it'... we tend to hear only the bad stories. I would like most, be serious 'knocked back' if mine went, the thought that it's only metal, and most things are replaceable, doesn't really cut it for me. I have now added 14 different 'modification' (Layers) to mine, and whilst 8 are always there, (always on) 6 need to be implemented, partially or completely, based on a highly subjective assessment of where i'm leaving it...and dangerously even assessing for how long...often I just 'fully arm' it. To 'fully arm' my Defender takes just under 2 minutes...and when returning therefore around another 2 minutes to 'dis-arm'...It can feel like conducting pre-flight checks before setting off. Now my philosophical observation is this... Should you first protect your Defender, to the best of your abilities, before adding a Tracker... 
I ask this because whilst I agree a Tracker is a good option...if you need to, or worse even rely on this alone, in my view, things are not as good as they could / should be. The temptation could be to fit a Tracker + 1 -2 other devises and feel the job done. In using your Tracker...in anger...trying to recover your Defender...you have already lost...it has been stolen... 
Knowing that, it may be recovered, even better, someone caught for this is good, but whilst I'm not suggesting don't fit a Tracker, I am suggesting that it should be nearer the last line in your Defence of your Defender, the final layer in your armory...not the first or main weapon. So if you have one fitted good...but I suggest that it is better to try and stop it going in the first place, and counter intuitively, I would also suggest that assuming you don't have a Tracker fitted could actually help. Discuss... SKIP
https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic83242.html |
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1st Dec 2016 11:19am |
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| BuckBlu110 Member Since: 19 Apr 2014 Location: in the pub Posts: 714 
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I'm in a similar frame of mind, my thinking was when I started adding layers was to prevent the theft in the first place and then move on to the prospect of what needs to be done if all my layers were defeated, ie: a tracker.
Either way I would say a tracker is definitely a help, perhaps more of piece of mind that should it go walkies, there's more chance of it coming back than disappearing forever and the investment /cost of all those layers to prevent the theft in the first place, is protected. It's been said before no end of times but, every little helps, and if yours looks like too much hassle to deal with because of it and the scrotes move on, then I'm all for plastering it in security measures. Maybe one day when the word has gotten out more and owners are more active and clued up on security, that defenders won't be of much interest to thieves, to hot to handle and to much hassle to attempt stealing. Here's hoping. |
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1st Dec 2016 11:41am |
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| X4SKP Member Since: 29 Nov 2013 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2295
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Hello BuckBlu110..here's hoping indeed...until then...
Click image to enlarge SKIP https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic83242.html |
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1st Dec 2016 1:43pm |
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| ARC99 Member Since: 19 Feb 2013 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 1831 
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I was a bit concerned by this post so much so that I contacted the N.F.U. to see if this had been brought in on the quiet. The reply was, " As long as you maintain the security systems that came fitted by Land Rover we (NFU) do not have a problem, you must also ensure that the vehicle is locked when you leave it. If as the owner you wish to upgrade the alarm or fit a tracker or other security device and you inform us that you have done so than these devices should be maintained in working order and used all times that you leave the vehicle unattended" . Don't make old people mad. We don't like being old in the first place, so it doesn't take much to  us off.
Richard |
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1st Dec 2016 2:10pm |
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| petestaunch Member Since: 19 Nov 2016 Location: Wales Posts: 65
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I feel woefully unprotected now.
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1st Dec 2016 2:18pm |
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