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red zepplin



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Nikon or cannon
Hi all posting this here as it seems appropriate. I'm looking to step in the world of dslr as it's a first camera (bar my phone) I'm not throwing a fortune into it. Looking on line I'm drawn to 2 camera's the cannon d760 or the nikon d3300 , budjet for the bodies about £600 before I jump in any of you chaps any other suggestions / advice or experience of either of these thanks in advance
Simon
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Swac3



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Hiya,

Theres a fair gap between the pricing of the 2 choices just wondering how you came down to these two ? as the d5500 would be the closer Brand rival.

That said, I've got canon kit, for no other reason than when I started DSLR the field I was buying for had a lot of users in the Canon camp, so bought gear for the Canon and so when upgrading the Body stuck with Canon for no other reason than I was happy with the Brand and had an investment in Glass.

If i'd chosen Nikon the story would likely be the same. Both camps have their supporters and in the same price point both have subjective or real pros and cons, but neither to the vast detriment of most buyers.

If you have somewhere you can physically hold both units then really do try to do it, we all have different hands and one may just feel 'right' to you over the other.

2nd have a look at the type of lenses you think your perceived use is likely to be and the cost/availability at your price point and factor that into your choice of Body.


I know its likely not helped you make a choice directly but something you want to use and like the fit/feel of is more valuable to you than minor differences in technical stats. 3 Landrovers
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^^^
100% agree...
Just said that the pair of the Nikon D3300 is the Canon t5i. Both quite good cameras.
I'm a Canon man but its just because my 1st camera was a Canon... Eduardo

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Rashers



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Good advice from Swac3 Thumbs Up

I went down the Nikon route. Had my DSLR, a D90, 10 years now. I agree you need to find a shop, pick it up, handle the camera, look at the shutter release and other controls. Does your hand fit comfortably around the camera? That is why I bought the Nikon, for me it was more balanced in my hand than the Canon. Both will be good cameras and will serve you well.

Have you ever thought about going down the second hand route? Many photographers upgrade and you may be able to get more bang for your buck! I would buy from a shop rather than eBay as you should get a guarantee of sorts and not end up with one that has bounced on the floor! My D90 was around £800 and is now worth about £40 in good condition! Still a good camera and still takes great pictures, limited only by the photographer.
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Thanks fellas looks like a trip to preston this weekend trying on cameras Whistle
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There is no clear answer to the question of Canon versus Nikon, both manufacturers are masters of their craft and seldom make bad cameras.

In reality the choice ultimately comes down to which makes the most suitable lenses for the photography you intend to undertake, and it is doubtful at the "prosumer" level that even that factor makes much difference.

I am a Canon user because for what I do, Canon (at the time) made the most suitable lenses. A colleague at work is a committed Mikon user, because for what he does Nikon lenses were more suitable. However we both have far, far more invested in lenses that the body of the camera, which is really just an incidental unit that hangs on the back of the lens.

It's rather like asking whether Stihl or Husqvarna chansaws are better, or wether Cooper STT or BFG AT tyres are better! You'll never get a clear answer!
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Swac3



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Husqvarna because theyre much more Orangy 3 Landrovers
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blackwolf wrote:
However we both have far, far more invested in lenses that the body of the camera, which is really just an incidental unit that hangs on the back of the lens.


100% true! Eduardo

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blackwolf



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^^^ Especially as the camera technology is now changing every two years or so, but the lens technology is reassuringly static.

A £3000 lens with a £500 camera on the back makes much more sense than a £500 lens with a £3000 camera.
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Canon for me.

Have you considered second hand from a reputable 2nd hand camera shop. You will get an awful lot more for your money. The depreciation in camera gear from new is quite staggering.

Or you could source a brand new model that is a couple of years old and pick it up for half the price it was when it first was launched. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..

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I always found these pretty good on price. Not always, but most of the time.

http://www.wexphotographic.com

http://www.ffordes.com
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Canon for me, have been using their camera bodies for all my SLR needs for many, many years and never had an issue.

The last few bodies I've bought as upgrades to my kit have been bought second hand with fairly low shutter counts. Usually off Ebay, depends if you want "enthusiast" level gear with all the latest bells and whistles or "pro" gear that's better in the core areas (image quality, sensor size etc...) but maybe not as good in other areas such as FPS. A good option in the second hand market might be a Canon 70D. Slightly down on pixels but has a slightly bigger sensor, much faster continuous frame rate, a better viewfinder and is water tight. You could also pick up a 5D mk II if you want a full frame sensor and aren't too fussed about shooting speed.

For sports photography a faster continuous shooting rate and focus speed may be more important than the image quality but for landscape and portrait the full size sensor and image quality of the "pro" model would probably be preferable. It's not an easy choice by any means ! Made more complex by introducing the option of second hand models that were 2-3 times budget when new Smile http://www.yorkshireoffroadclub.net/
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Rashers



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smb wrote:
I always found these pretty good on price. Not always, but most of the time.

http://www.wexphotographic.com

http://www.ffordes.com


WEX have their warehouse just down the road from me in Norwich. They also have a retail shop on the first floor. I have always had really good service from these guys. They also have a really good second hand section as well if you do decide to go down that road.
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http://www.graysofwestminster.co.uk/index.php I have been a Nikon Freak since 1990 brilliant equipment go for this Gear.
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Thanks for all this advise it really is appreciated. So now if I concentrate on the lenses 1st will I be tied to a particular manufacturer or are they interchangeable ( my background is racing bikes and it was either shimano or campagnolo you couldn't effectively swap stuff about)
Si
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