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| Zinke Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Scunthorpe Posts: 670   
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I need some new springs for my TD5 90, i like what i have but they are getting worn and the power coating is pealing badly in places. I dont want heavy duty springs and i dont want Terrafirma springs to go with my shocks because they are +2" and i want to retain the standard height as i tow a lot and just dont need a lift, i get everywhere i need too no problem.
So im thinking i may as well get some genuine springs, all the other good quality springs seem to be either HD or lifted and the ones that arent come from sh#tpart or allparts, nither of which i have confidence in. So i have been looking at genuine springs for a 2011 90 CSW as i think they changed the springs for the puma 90 CSW? So can anybody tell me what the difference between the TD5 CSW and Puma CSW springs are (spring rates maybe?), will they fit the TD5, as far as i know the spring diameter hasnt changed, and are the rears duel rate springs? Has anybody else done this? Or failing that, anybody suggest a spring that wont break the bank but does what i need it to do (comfy ride but can carry a full payload without hitting the bump stops)? Many thanks Pete. |
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8th Jan 2011 1:34am |
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| RED-DOT Member Since: 29 Jun 2009 Location: stirling Posts: 2363 
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Springs don't wear and they should not get weak for years and i have never heard of them being replaced due to paint flaking off!! OCD or what? 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS..
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8th Jan 2011 10:41am |
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| noworries4x4 Member Since: 24 Dec 2010 Location: Newton Abbot Devon Posts: 1195 
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I always get my springs from what was Scorpion now Extreme and yes they do ordinary stuff very high quality, the orange powder coating has never come off my extra heavy dutys or anti roll bar If everything is under control you are not going fast enough.
Every Day 16 MY Discovery 4 Commercial Workshop and Escort Vehicle Weekends 07MY L322 TDV8 Vogue SE Series 1 80" 3ltr 6cyl with overdrive No Worries 4X4 |
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8th Jan 2011 11:43am |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8059  
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Exeter4x4
Devon4x4 OEC International Gwyn Lewis All excellent suppliers and each would be able to help you. Cheers James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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8th Jan 2011 2:34pm |
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| Zinke Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Scunthorpe Posts: 670
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Springs do wear and sag over time which effects handling and load carrying, and the powder coating has come off and is BADLY pitted where the coating is missing which will cause a weaknesses. Have you never seen a broken coil spring before due to age and fatigue? They normally break at the top coil, but wouldnt expect somebody who posts things like the above to check these kind of things. I suggest you get your facts correct before posting such flippant remarks when you do not know what you are talking about! Pete. |
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8th Jan 2011 5:45pm |
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| RED-DOT Member Since: 29 Jun 2009 Location: stirling Posts: 2363
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They DON'T wear but they do go weak and drop but you never said this... And i have worked on Land Rovers for 35 years... How many miles has your vehicle done? TD5 90 Defenders had weak springing from new and will sit down with 500kgs. 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS..
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8th Jan 2011 5:49pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8059
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there is a spring guide i thought was on here somewhere which specified all the different set-ups as Std. been looking but cant find it now. Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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8th Jan 2011 5:49pm |
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| Zinke Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Scunthorpe Posts: 670
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Im looking for a better ride down rough tracks which i drive a lot as a farmer. Most 90 CSW's ive driven seem to cope with this a lot better which i have to put down to them having dues rate springs as the shocks are the same i believe. My understanding is that the duel rate springs allow slightly more movement at a lower spring rate when empty but still allowing loads to be carried without the back end sagging. My problem is im normally fully loaded or totally empty and want to get the ride as good as possible in both situations. Pete. |
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8th Jan 2011 5:51pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8059
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mods please del dup post. Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop Last edited by jst on 8th Jan 2011 5:52pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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8th Jan 2011 5:51pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8059
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i dont mean to nick pick but whats the difference between wear and and go weak? Surely the repeated use in articulation makes them weaker? i dont know, do they loose efficiency with time or usage? Cheers James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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8th Jan 2011 5:52pm |
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| Zinke Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Scunthorpe Posts: 670
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That kind of thing is what im looking for, would be good if you could find it. Thanks. Pete. |
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8th Jan 2011 5:52pm |
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| Glynparry25 Member Since: 16 Feb 2009 Location: Miserable Midlands Posts: 3015  
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I would advise OME all the way.
When I have the funds I will be getting a Gwyn Lewis setup which uses OME springs and shocks.... no lift but about an extra 11" travel 
Glyn  |
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8th Jan 2011 5:52pm |
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| Zinke Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Scunthorpe Posts: 670
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Exactly what i was just about to say, thanks!  |
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8th Jan 2011 5:54pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8059
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From what i remember CSW ones are dual rate as you say, other spec ones aren't. i presume you have a non SW TD5 then? This is the case for 90s, i think the 110s are now the same SW or USW etc. Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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8th Jan 2011 5:56pm |
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