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| Cupboard Member Since: 21 Mar 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2971   
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I saw one in person yesterday at the Holkham Food Fair and it's just like a Disco 4 sized version of the Disco Sport. Massive lump of plastic in front of the front tyres to get stuck on everything and damaged.
 Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge I have to say I only noticed it because it was camouflaged. I'd have walked right by trying to find where my boss had hidden the car if not. |
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4th Sep 2016 7:13am |
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| LiftedDisco Member Since: 17 Aug 2014 Location: Towcester Posts: 354 
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100% correct Due to hear more in Oct 2018 (officially)...  |
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4th Sep 2016 7:26am |
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| JOW240725 Member Since: 04 May 2015 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7906 
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I still can't help thinking now the D5 is becoming squatter like the rest of the range, the new Defender will be more like the D4 shape? Now certain the Defender name will be buried. James
MY2012 110 2.2TDCi XS SW Orkney Grey - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic43410.html MY1990 110 200TDi SW beautifully faded Portofino Red - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post743641.html#743641 MY1984 90 V8 Slate Grey - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post744557.html#744557 Instagram @suffolk_rovers |
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4th Sep 2016 8:03am |
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| languedoc Member Since: 13 May 2016 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 283  
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I'm still confused as to where the discovery sport fits into the range?
It's not much bigger than an evoque and lower spec than an RRS. What's the point? I bet the D5 is going to be smaller than the D4 which, to me, cancels any point in buying one |
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4th Sep 2016 8:12am |
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| Cupboard Member Since: 21 Mar 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2971
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Walking round it it seemed like the same size as a D4 just less boxy and more rounded.
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4th Sep 2016 12:41pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20443
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Disco four would be my second favourite to the Def. but obviously still not the same character.
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4th Sep 2016 1:09pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816  
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Hope you are correct. Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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4th Sep 2016 1:28pm |
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| LiftedDisco Member Since: 17 Aug 2014 Location: Towcester Posts: 354
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I wouldn't be so convinced about the passing of the Defender name, although I accept that many will never see anything that follows as being a true Defender.
However, and answering Languedoc's query, Land Rover has a clearly defined brand identity document that details Range Rover as being 'Luxury'; Discovery as being 'Lifestyle' and Defender as being 'Utility'. This document came out prior to the demise of Freelander, setting the tone for the current spell of product development, hence there being various versions of RR (and more in the pipeline) the current concentration on things Discovery related and the impeding development of Defender replacement. It has a chassis number, components have been tested - I'm just somewhat frustrated that it's not here and on the market right now! Finally, there are those who argue that Land Rover is deserting its roots, turning its back on the heritage - in truth, the business (and, yes, it is a business) is simply evolving to offer some pretty good vehicles and do so in an increasingly competitive market place. As to the 'heritage', every vehicle that is launched has the Land Rover DNA running through it - hard to believe, possibly, but even the Evoque Convertible has been tested in an off-road environment before you and I get our mucky mitts on it and I'm confident that the basic premise of being able to put a horse trailer on the thing and STILL get off the field will endure for a long time to come... |
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5th Sep 2016 2:10pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5038 
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This happens every time land rover bring out a new car. Most of the problem with land rover are the enthusiasts that own them im afraid.
Land rover has lost its way a little and could do better in some areas...but im sure the D5, which is different when you see it and new Defender will sell really well. The only thing for me is a) price, b) loss of the more practical/affordable car in favour of luxury brand...some of them are getting too big too And in answer to the Disco Sport question, the disco sport is the freelander - just think of it like that and it slots in perfectly. Whats worrying, ive got a 3 door evoke at the moment, a car i dont like the styling of etc but its not half bad in the latest iteration - engine, infotainment etc - now thats worrying (anyone got a comb and scissors?) Mike |
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5th Sep 2016 8:56pm |
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| Ryderoo Member Since: 28 Aug 2015 Location: South Oxfordshire Posts: 1666  
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"Whats worrying, ive got a 3 door evoke at the moment, a car i dont like the styling of etc but its not half bad in the latest iteration - engine, infotainment etc - now thats worrying (anyone got a comb and scissors?)"
Funny that, Mike. My wife's daily driver is a 3 door Evoque, she loves it! It's not that bad a vehicle, good mpg, comfy interior good standard equipment but I still prefer my D4 and Defender. (something for the weekend sir)  Cheers Simon
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you 1990 110 TD5 county, my first Land Rover - gone 2012 Discovery 4 XS SDV6 - gone 2014 Discovery 4 XS SDV6 - gone 2015 Evoque SD4 dynamic - Wife’s - gone 2015 Urban Truck 90 XS Santorini Black Hard Top - Reluctantly gone 2020 Discovery 5 Eiger Grey 3.0 SE - gone March 24 2021 Defender S D250 Santorini Black 110 HT - gone March 24 2023 Evoque P300e SE wife’s current vehicle |
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6th Sep 2016 3:49am |
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| Ads90 Member Since: 16 Jun 2008 Location: Cots-on-the-Wolds Posts: 812 
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So it appears it is the new D5?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/news/new-2...-revealed/ Article mentions that it's pushed 'more upmarket, closer to RR etc'. So not exactly 'lifestyle' then, and now they don't do 'utility' either. I'm thinking LR may never do utility again, but IMO they desperately need a 'lifestyle' option, at a more affordable entry point. The original Freelander hit the spot quite well, with it's removable roof, plastic wheelarches etc. I hope there is one in the pipeline. And I hope it looks nothing like a jelly-mold copy of the current range. |
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6th Sep 2016 10:49am |
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| shaggydog Member Since: 12 Aug 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 3347 
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With the contempt they treat their current Defender owners with I would not be surprised if they do drop it all together.
In fact, I would rather they did. At least that way we will still be able to find parts and pictures and articles easily without being misdirected to the modern Skoda yeti alike. Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197 Self confessed mileage hunter  |
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6th Sep 2016 11:52am |
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| mk1collector Member Since: 17 Sep 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 6769 
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This picture says it all! Discovery 1-4 you can see the evolution of the model and then the 5 is a Euro blob
Click image to enlarge Ray My build thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17615.html |
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6th Sep 2016 3:21pm |
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| 4ndy Member Since: 04 Jun 2016 Location: Cheshire Posts: 17 |
It's a shame that Land Rover are moving away from the Utility market. The D4 I've used for work has been the best all-round vehicle I've driven. Equally at home polished up for collecting clients from the airport, or crawling up the side of a mountain for a photo/video work (and having one of the guys stood on the roof).
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6th Sep 2016 4:50pm |
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