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| fekete Member Since: 24 Dec 2008 Location: Here on the other end of the computer Posts: 3626   
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Thought this may be of some use, the law on how much your wheels/tyres can protrude from your arches.
Link to full regs: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUri...49:EN:HTML Council Directive 78/549/EEC of 12 June 1978 on the approximation of the laws of the Member States relating to the wheel guards of motor vehicles 2.1.2. The rear of the wheel guards must not terminate above a horizontal plane 150 mm above the axis of rotation of the wheels (as measured at the wheel centres) and furthermore the intersection of the edge of the wheel guard with this plane (point A, figure 1) must lie outside the median longitudinal plane of the tyre, or in the case of twin wheels the median longitudinal plane of the outermost tyre. 2.1.3. The contour and location of the wheel guards shall be such that they are as close to the tyre as possible ; and in particular within the part formed by the radial planes referred to in 2.1.1, they shall satisfy the following requirements: 2.1.3.1. the projection - situated in the vertical plane of the tyre axis - of the depth (p) of the outer edge of the wheel guards, measured in the vertical longitudinal plane passing through the centre of the tyre, must be at least 30 mm. This depth (p) may be reduced progressively to zero at the radial planes specified in 2.1.1; In short, the wheel must NOT protrude more than 30mm past the edge of the mudguard. It's also in the MOT regs (d) wheels, if there are no pointed or sharp features which projects beyond the external plane of the wheel rim, no wing nuts are fitted and there are no projections beyond the vehicle body plan form apart from tyres and wheel discs, (including central wheel securing nuts) if the latter have a radius of curvature of not less than 30mm and do not project by more than 30mm beyond the vehicle body plan form ; NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAYLast edited by fekete on 10th Nov 2010 5:31pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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10th Nov 2010 5:16pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17430 
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Very interesting, but the link doesn't seem to be working!
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10th Nov 2010 5:25pm |
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| fekete Member Since: 24 Dec 2008 Location: Here on the other end of the computer Posts: 3626
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Here you go
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUri...49:EN:HTML NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY |
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10th Nov 2010 5:30pm |
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| Lorryman100 Member Since: 01 Oct 2010 Location: Here Posts: 2686 |
fekete, fitting these would probably make the tyres you have legal in the sense they will be conforming with this law? Or am I reading it wrong
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30th Dec 2010 10:21am |
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| Lorryman100 Member Since: 01 Oct 2010 Location: Here Posts: 2686 |
Cheers Karl, what arches did you get? I ask because I'm in the process of getting some 305's
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30th Dec 2010 10:41am |
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| fekete Member Since: 24 Dec 2008 Location: Here on the other end of the computer Posts: 3626
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Hi Brian i got a set of pacer wheel arch spats from Canada when i was over there they are about 1-3/4" ill get a pic up in a bit
NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAYLast edited by fekete on 30th Dec 2010 11:15am. Edited 2 times in total |
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30th Dec 2010 10:45am |
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| fekete Member Since: 24 Dec 2008 Location: Here on the other end of the computer Posts: 3626
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Here you go Brian...You can get them in about 4 different sizes
http://www.truckcustomizers.com/products/p...lares.html But i got mine from here http://www.national4wdonline.com/cart.php NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY |
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30th Dec 2010 10:58am |
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| Lorryman100 Member Since: 01 Oct 2010 Location: Here Posts: 2686 |
Me like
A much better idea for fitting them than the terrafirmas ones. Have you sized them up yet or checked for fitting clearances? Are you going to bother, or just leave them in the back incase you get stopped |
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30th Dec 2010 11:24am |
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| fekete Member Since: 24 Dec 2008 Location: Here on the other end of the computer Posts: 3626
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The problem with the terrafirmas is you have to drill the bodywork
 and i think they look  ......the pacer ones will look so much better....you will have no problems with clearances..... fitting them i think is going to be a little tricky as there is not much of a lip on the original spat to drill to ? if i ever have to fit them i think i would go down the route of a strong contact adhesive and a few pop rivets
there just staying in the back in case i get stopped...I've been past lots of coppers and they have just looked but there was one that pulled me he was ok but told me they were illegal and asked me to sort it out i think he just wanted a closer look at the landy NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY |
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30th Dec 2010 11:40am |
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| fekete Member Since: 24 Dec 2008 Location: Here on the other end of the computer Posts: 3626
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Here is a pic of some fitted but they have removed the original spats but it will give you an idea how they will sit on the original spat and still keep the shape of the wheel arch
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30th Dec 2010 11:52am |
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| Lorryman100 Member Since: 01 Oct 2010 Location: Here Posts: 2686 |
That's what I would do, remove the originals carefully and fit the replacements in lieu of the originals
I play golf with a couple of boys in traffic occasionally and have brought this subject up in the past, there comments seem to be that it is expected to be seen on a defender as they are for off road use. As for getting stopped for having them would depend on the individual officer's point of view towards them. It was pointed out that I would need to be more careful of avoiding vehicle inspectorate checkpoints than a random stop from the police. I will wait and see by how much the tyres stick out before going down this road and I will carry a copy of the regs showing the 30mm rule. It may even be worth booking the car in for a pre mot inspection too see if they get picked up, and if they don't I have the paperwork to prove it's legal. Unfortunately this wont work for you mate, 75mm  you probably only need the defender to carry your cahoony's about as they are thiiiiiiissssssss big  |
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30th Dec 2010 12:04pm |
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| RLD Member Since: 29 Jun 2007 Location: Lancs Posts: 858
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30th Dec 2010 2:09pm |
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| RLD Member Since: 29 Jun 2007 Location: Lancs Posts: 858
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RLD fabricator of Hidden Winch Mount for D3/4 roof racks jerry can holders CB aerial mounts and much more and agent for Helsport Tents and gear |
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30th Dec 2010 2:11pm |
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| fekete Member Since: 24 Dec 2008 Location: Here on the other end of the computer Posts: 3626
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Some fat bloke in a mask with man boobs
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30th Dec 2010 3:36pm |
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