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RED-DOT



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OK, who's correct.
My other vehicle failed its MOT today for the SRS dash warning light being constantly on. After a search i found on .gov website that i can remove the bulb and as it is not showing a fault it will not fail. MOT tester says the light must come on then go off. Who is correct? 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS..
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Go Beyond



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The .gov website suggested removing the bulb ?
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Mash



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From what I have read before the bulb must illuminate to show the "self test" if this doesn't happen the tester will fail it for not functioning. 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html
90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html
110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html
52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html
D3 Hse - Fiona
Capri 2l S - Anna

Think I might have a problem............
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blackwolf



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The tester is correct.

The light must not indicate the presence of a fault. If the light itself is not functioning (which can be determined because it does not illuminate briefly when it is known that it should) then a fault exists.

Quod erat demonstrandum.
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ian series 1



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Yep, light must come on then go off. 80" 80" 86" 88" 90"

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Matt90



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The bulb must illuminate to allow a pass

There are probably many td5 discos running about with bulbs removed to eliminate the 3 amigos, most testers would probably not check, I can confirm this as we've been running ours for the past 3 years like this and it's never been picked up on its mot, try a different test station and you'll probably get a pass
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Matt90



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Although just did some research and found this

https://mattersoftesting.blog.gov.uk/commo...t-testers/
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RED-DOT



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Yes Matt.... Article 2
https://mattersoftesting.blog.gov.uk/commo...t-testers/ 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS..
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lambert.the.farmer



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Whilst the information in the link may be correct it is from 2014, i would be wanting a bit more up to date information personally as things change. Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon.
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RED-DOT wrote:
Yes Matt.... Article 2
https://mattersoftesting.blog.gov.uk/commo...t-testers/


Further down the web page are questions and answers.

It looks like if it doesn't illuminate it can't display a fault, so therefore it is rejected. As other posters have said.

Here is a page from the MOT inspection manual.



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 Cheers Simon

I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you

1990 110 TD5 county, my first Land Rover - gone
2012 Discovery 4 XS SDV6 - gone
2014 Discovery 4 XS SDV6 - gone
2015 Evoque SD4 dynamic - Wife’s - gone
2015 Urban Truck 90 XS Santorini Black Hard Top - Reluctantly gone
2020 Discovery 5 Eiger Grey 3.0 SE - gone March 24
2021 Defender S D250 Santorini Black 110 HT - gone March 24
2023 Evoque P300e SE wife’s current vehicle
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RED-DOT



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So if the warning light stays on it will fail, if it does not come on at all it is not displaying a fault it is a pass? 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS..
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Ryderoo



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Hmmmmmmm.

I am reading it as;

If the light does not illuminate when ignition on it will be rejected as it cannot display a failure in the SRS, the display itself is faulty plus if it constantly illuminates it is also rejected for being at fault.

That is how I interpret it.

As always government docs not written comprehensively, leaving a lot for interpretation Banging Head Cheers Simon

I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you

1990 110 TD5 county, my first Land Rover - gone
2012 Discovery 4 XS SDV6 - gone
2014 Discovery 4 XS SDV6 - gone
2015 Evoque SD4 dynamic - Wife’s - gone
2015 Urban Truck 90 XS Santorini Black Hard Top - Reluctantly gone
2020 Discovery 5 Eiger Grey 3.0 SE - gone March 24
2021 Defender S D250 Santorini Black 110 HT - gone March 24
2023 Evoque P300e SE wife’s current vehicle
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