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| rallysteve Member Since: 10 Feb 2014 Location: Cumbria Posts: 2237   
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Had mine on the weighbridge at 2100kg with full tank of fuel, rear pvc canopy, boosts with 255/85 tyres, r&t sliders and a few other addons.
It is a td5 but doubt there is too much diffencene with the puma. 02' 110 TD5 Double Cab Rebuild Thread |
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3rd Aug 2016 8:47pm |
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| Pinky Member Since: 09 Jun 2016 Location: England Posts: 210  
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Had mine on the weigh bridge at 2650k with nothing special extra on.
So what was it from the factory? |
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3rd Aug 2016 8:53pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17464 
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According to LR in 2015 the kerb weight of an ex-factory 110 Tdci DCPU is 2042kg which corresponds to an unladen weight of 1910kg.
Figures based on 2015 LR specs: 90 HT Kerb 1771 => ULW 1650 90 PU kerb 1740 => ULW 1740 90 SW Kerb 1887 => ULW 1887 110 HT Kerb 1955 => ULW 1823 110 PU Kerb 1917 => ULW 1785 110 SW Kerb 2062 => ULW 1930 110 UW Kerb 2062 => ULW 1930 110 DCPU Kerb 2042 => ULW 1910 110 HCPU Kerb 1938 => ULW 1806 130 DCHCPU Kerb 2149 => ULW 2017 |
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3rd Aug 2016 9:28pm |
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| Pinky Member Since: 09 Jun 2016 Location: England Posts: 210
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So it seems I'm carrying an extra 600k or so without any goods!
Looks like I'm already using the right springs at 500k +2" But they are so hard! Might have to have a rethink... |
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3rd Aug 2016 9:31pm |
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| apt100 Member Since: 05 Mar 2015 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 1547 
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Is there a typo with 90 HT & SW (kerb = ULW)? |
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3rd Aug 2016 9:55pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17464
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Yes, there is of course, my apologies!
Corrected figures below:- Figures based on 2015 LR specs: 90 HT Kerb 1771 => ULW 1650 90 PU kerb 1740 => ULW 1619 90 SW Kerb 1887 => ULW 1766 110 HT Kerb 1955 => ULW 1823 110 PU Kerb 1917 => ULW 1785 110 SW Kerb 2062 => ULW 1930 110 UW Kerb 2062 => ULW 1930 110 DCPU Kerb 2042 => ULW 1910 110 HCPU Kerb 1938 => ULW 1806 130 DCHCPU Kerb 2149 => ULW 2017 The ULW figures are calculated from LR's KW figures by subtracting the weight of a 75kg driver and the 90% fuel payload that LR includes, and makes allowance for the differeing fuel tank sizes across the range. |
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4th Aug 2016 7:29am |
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| George G Member Since: 02 Feb 2015 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 21
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If you search for the defender brochure as a PDF then there are the official weight and dimension figures in there for the commonly available configurations
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4th Aug 2016 5:45pm |
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| Pinky Member Since: 09 Jun 2016 Location: England Posts: 210
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Back on the weigh bridge today and still not fully loaded it came in at 2720kg.
So it looks like I'm carrying on a daily basis 680ish kilos. If I carry more, like another 60 or so kilos the ride is so much better, it sways abit but much nicer and still doesn't sit down. I'm not sure what springs are on at the moment but I know they are plus 2". Going by the colour, bright blue, I think they may be bearmach HD plus 500kg versions.. I spoke to bearmach to see if they have any serial numbers or the like on them to be told there might be but it will be small and probably hidden under the retainer. So my dilemma is that I want to carry less but stop my teeth being rattled out. If I completely empty the non essentials it feels like the truck would shake itself to bits on anything but smooth Tarmac! If these are plus 500kg springs they seem to be overkill with almost 700kg! Do I risk going down to +300kg ones? I also need to take the shocks into account, at the moment I have terrafirma +2", they might be too harsh in combination with the hard springs. Anyone tried the progressive springs? I guess that would be the ideal solution but expensive to just buy and try to find the right weight. I know this subject has been done to death but any help appreciated.. |
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4th Aug 2016 6:31pm |
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| apt100 Member Since: 05 Mar 2015 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 1547
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Thanks. ( I noticed being a 90 SW owner). Here's an interesting one I saw today on a car park sign. No coaches or commercial vehicles. Definition of a commercial vehicle is one adapted for the carriage of goods and with an unladen weight greater than 1800Kg. I didn't see any Defenders in there, but it wasn't especially big. |
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4th Aug 2016 6:53pm |
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| megatoad Member Since: 07 Jan 2012 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 358 
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Thats because the springs are rated for a) a fully loaded truck b) towing up to 3.5 Tonnes softening the prings for comfort will compromise the vehicle when it IS used on occasions to its full capacity. Especially when towing 3rd party non LR modified suspension is potentially etremely dangerous! You honestly think some third party party suppliers with no vehicle Contruction & Use testing requrements knows better than the OEM how to modify the suspension safely? It scares me when I think of all the back street mechanic modified cars that there are running around Just my opinion. btw my 110 SW hit 2200kg on the ASM weighbridge last Saturday, must have been the Jack Russel inside! He who dies with the most toys wins 
Defender 90 & 110, S1 80", Disco 1, S111 88 LRSOC & CVLRC |
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5th Aug 2016 7:26am |
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| Pinky Member Since: 09 Jun 2016 Location: England Posts: 210
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How much more loaded do I need to be? Isn't over 600k enough?
I would use OEM springs if they worked, the reason they were changed is because with less than I carry now they were on the bump stops, even the OEM hd ones. So what would you suggest? |
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5th Aug 2016 3:41pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17464
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Original factory springs on a DCPU are design to work up to a GVW of 3045kg, so I really can't understand why your vehicle was on the stops with only around half its permitted payload on board.
My DC is on standard springs and I have no problem running at GVW. |
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5th Aug 2016 4:32pm |
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| Pinky Member Since: 09 Jun 2016 Location: England Posts: 210
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Maybe it was all the towing a heavy trailer as well that knackered them, maybe I'll start again from scratch with OEM hd and see what happens. Anyone know what colour I need?
EDIT Just found it, Purple and brown part number RKB 101111 |
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5th Aug 2016 6:03pm |
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| Pinky Member Since: 09 Jun 2016 Location: England Posts: 210
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So, starting from scratch with the rear suspension, almost, swapped the springs today back to standard brown / purple, got a pair of NTO from Keith Gott. It was a bit low with the new ones in so put in a 40mm lift to bring it back to where it was.. Now she's sitting pretty again.
Only done 20 miles or so but so far much softer ride and it actually leans slightly round corners now! My daily carry of 650 or so kg doesn't look out of place as before but is so much more comfortable and I'm hoping that when I do really load her up the progressive nature of the springs will keep her level.. Time will tell but so far I'm happy
Why do these little jobs always throw up more work? Shocks were "welded" to the top mounts so had to cut them off, so new shocks, took the mounts off to get the welded inner bush off and once cleaned up they were so corroded they needed shimming out temporarily until the new top mounts arrive.. So what I saved on the springs and some got spent anyway  |
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15th Aug 2016 3:19pm |
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