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Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4216	Help! Yet another 2.4 Puma not starting The honeymoon is over. I know there are a million threads like this but my symptoms seem to be different. Turn over on the starter no problem, but no sign of firing. Dash lights etc. all appear normal. Temp gauge on cold. I'm off to check fuses and relays now, but can anyone else offer any suggestions to get the old girl going.
3rd Aug 2016 4:37pm

Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4216	Anyone? I was meant to be going out tonight Fuses all look healthy. Don't really know what I'm looking at with the relays, there seems to be a lot of them and no means of identifying them. I disconnected the battery for a bit and reconnected, still same.
3rd Aug 2016 5:07pm

blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17432	Several things could cause this, my first suspicion would be crankshaft or camshaft position sensors.
3rd Aug 2016 6:12pm

Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4216	Can they be tested? I could do with a logical diagnostic process. Is that possible without the fancy diagnosis tools?
3rd Aug 2016 6:14pm

Cupboard Member Since: 21 Mar 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2971	do you have any sort of diagnostics tool? It's possible with the cheap ones too. Have you tried locking it, setting the alarm, and then trying again? I've had issues with the immobiliser before that have been fixed by turning the alarm on and off.
3rd Aug 2016 8:34pm

custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20430	Leaving the battery disconnected completely for a while then reconnected could be worth a try too. Basic, but easy to eliminate. Last edited by custom90 on 4th Aug 2016 4:23pm. Edited 1 time in total
3rd Aug 2016 8:38pm

Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4216

Cupboard wrote: do you have any sort of diagnostics tool? It's possible with the cheap ones too. Have you tried locking it, setting the alarm, and then trying again? I've had issues with the immobiliser before that have been fixed by turning the alarm on and off. I have cheapo diagnostic tool which says no DTCs stored. Have armed and disarmed the alarm too. I did leave battery disconnected for about 10mins to no avail either. A chap on Angry Puma's Facebook group is holefully going to help me out with his Lynx diagnostic tool tomorrow, hopefully that will shed some light on the situation. I'm sort of thinking its alarm/immobiliser related but I don't really know why.

3rd Aug 2016 8:58pm

SimonDavies Member Since: 15 Mar 2012 Location: Swansea Posts: 244	I would also say it could be a crank sensor fault. Hopefully his diag tool will have live data and you can see if the ecu is seeing rpm.
3rd Aug 2016 10:32pm

Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4216	It turns out the camshaft position sensor has died. Does anyone know the Ford equivelant part number for one, so I can try the local Ford dealer tomorrow.
4th Aug 2016 4:11pm

blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17432	blackwolf wrote: Several things could cause this, my first suspicion would be crankshaft or camshaft position sensors.
4th Aug 2016 4:26pm

dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554	this may help camshaft position sensors. ford part number 1358343 Last edited by dorsetsmith on 5th Aug 2016 7:41am. Edited 1 time in total
4th Aug 2016 4:41pm

Cupboard Member Since: 21 Mar 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2971	Is this one of those sensors it's worth keeping one of in my box of bits as it can disable the vehicle in the middle of nowhere?
5th Aug 2016 7:30am

Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4216	I'll let you know the cost shortly and you can decide, but I'd say yes if you are going somewhere remote. Car completely disabled with no warning.
5th Aug 2016 8:02am

Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4216	£34.56 +VAT from Ford.
5th Aug 2016 8:13am

Cupboard Member Since: 21 Mar 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2971	No go with no warning and the part is cheap (half that from people other than Ford), I think I'll be picking one of them up then Thanks.
5th Aug 2016 10:10am

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