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Muddybigdog



Member Since: 11 Apr 2014
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 1016

United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Zambezi Silver
Disco 4
Thinking of buying a D4 (keeping the 90) but looking at the D4 forum, it frightens the life out of me to see so many issues, especially electrical gremlins. I know there are few D4 owners on here just wondered are they pretty reliable, it would need to be an early version with fairly high miles, as nearer vehicles are a kings ransom. We did have 2 D3 but both of them were in-out of the KR garage like cuckoo clocks, averaging 400 a month on repairs.

Alternatively Land Cruiser Big Cry or Toureg Embarassed any thoughts from current or previous owners? Jumped ship to reliability - Mitsubishi L200
Puma 90 XS - Sold
D3 - 2.7 S x2 (both Sold)
Freelander 2 HSE - Sold
Freelander 1 - Sold
Disco 2 - Sold
Post #552376 30th Jul 2016 2:33pm
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languedoc



Member Since: 13 May 2016
Location: Edinburgh
Posts: 283

Scotland 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Alaska White
Following with interest

I'm planning on trading in my Range Rover and X5 for a D4. Had a D3 a while back and really liked it as a family car and would sit well with the new 110 but a friend is on his second D4 after dealer had to replace it and he has issues with the new one.

I'm nowhere near a main dealer and the wife would kill me if it was always away.
Post #552381 30th Jul 2016 3:07pm
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marsie



Member Since: 17 Nov 2011
Location: sheffieldish
Posts: 532

England 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
As well as my 110 i also run a "posh" landrover. Over the last few years i have had among others-

2005 Discovery3 HSE
2007 Discovery 3 SE
2008 Discovery 3 HSE
2011 Discovery 4 XS

The problem with looking on the forum is that people only post up when they have a problem, so it can look scary for any potential buyer

Out of all my previous discoveries, non of them have caused any major problems. One thing to look for on all discovery models is suspension bushes. All of mine have needed some work on the bushes, but all of them had done 60000 miles or more. My disco4 had the front arms changed just before i got it, i ran it for a year and never spent a penny on it.

Never had any electrical gremlins on any of mine apart from a duff battery (discos are very sensitive to voltage and can throw strange faults up if the volts drop)

Don't have a disco at the mo as i have got myself a Range rover 4.4tdv8
Paul 2000 90 TD5,galv chassis, d2 axles ,Bas remap , alisport intercooler , d2 transfer box , side windows-more to come-much more!! *GONE*
2004 110 TD5 Double cab. *GONE*
2010 110 2.4 XS station wagon
Post #552385 30th Jul 2016 4:01pm
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shaggydog



Member Since: 12 Aug 2012
Location: Kent
Posts: 3347

United Kingdom 1991 Defender 110 200 Tdi USW Arles Blue
One of my friends bought one brand new top spec- very lovely truck.

It cost them £1000 a month in repairs and after a year they said no this is pointless and swapped it for a Subaru outback - had it 6 months and only ever put fuel in it.

Had electrical issues, under gear issues, joints wearing out, alarm issues, central locking, leaks. Whatever the issue was, it was £1000 to correct it. Only ever used by a wife who would ferry their daughter around or dogs or collect odd horsey bits- never towed, never off roaded.

Not saying they are all like that, but I couldn't swallow £1k a month on repairs Shocked Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197

Self confessed mileage hunter Very Happy
Post #552386 30th Jul 2016 4:04pm
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Ryderoo



Member Since: 28 Aug 2015
Location: South Oxfordshire
Posts: 1666

England 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Santorini Black
I am on my second D4. First one march 2012, kept for 2 and half years 54k miles,no issues traded for another one September 14, currently has 40k miles, drives like a dream. Sweet engine, pulls well for nearly 3 tonnes, nice place to be in.

Best cars I have owned.

I have owned in the past 2 mercs one an AMG, 4 Audis one an S5, a 5 series Beemer not one of these come close.

Will buy another D4 or it's replacement next year.

All I have done with my D4's is fill with diesel, Dealer maintenance and drive.








 Cheers Simon

I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you

1990 110 TD5 county, my first Land Rover - gone
2012 Discovery 4 XS SDV6 - gone
2014 Discovery 4 XS SDV6 - gone
2015 Evoque SD4 dynamic - Wife’s - gone
2015 Urban Truck 90 XS Santorini Black Hard Top - Reluctantly gone
2020 Discovery 5 Eiger Grey 3.0 SE - gone March 24
2021 Defender S D250 Santorini Black 110 HT - gone March 24
2023 Evoque P300e SE wife’s current vehicle
Post #552397 30th Jul 2016 5:01pm
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marsie



Member Since: 17 Nov 2011
Location: sheffieldish
Posts: 532

England 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
Same here Ryderoo. I have my "posh" landrover for weekends, holidays and towing at work(even though i have my 110, i still prefer towing with my other car). The D3/4 is the best car i have ever towed with and i regularly tow the full 3.5t. I have had Merc MLs, land cruisers, jeeps bmws etc but still come back to land rovers

Only reason i went for a Range Rover this time was because i fancied a change Thumbs Up

My Last D4


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Paul 2000 90 TD5,galv chassis, d2 axles ,Bas remap , alisport intercooler , d2 transfer box , side windows-more to come-much more!! *GONE*
2004 110 TD5 Double cab. *GONE*
2010 110 2.4 XS station wagon
Post #552400 30th Jul 2016 5:13pm
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Ryderoo



Member Since: 28 Aug 2015
Location: South Oxfordshire
Posts: 1666

England 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Santorini Black
Hey Marsie, I think my posh Land Rover is my 90 Shocked Rolling with laughter Cheers Simon

I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you

1990 110 TD5 county, my first Land Rover - gone
2012 Discovery 4 XS SDV6 - gone
2014 Discovery 4 XS SDV6 - gone
2015 Evoque SD4 dynamic - Wife’s - gone
2015 Urban Truck 90 XS Santorini Black Hard Top - Reluctantly gone
2020 Discovery 5 Eiger Grey 3.0 SE - gone March 24
2021 Defender S D250 Santorini Black 110 HT - gone March 24
2023 Evoque P300e SE wife’s current vehicle
Post #552403 30th Jul 2016 5:18pm
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CarMan



Member Since: 29 Nov 2010
Location: Cotswolds
Posts: 1859

United Kingdom 
Probably not all that relevant but love my '09 D3 (one of the last) to bits, which is the best LR I have ever owned (excluding 90's of course) including FFRR and has been perfectly reliable though still has only done 38k Thumbs Up Rob

1993 200tdi 90 hard-top
1998 300tdi 90 soft-top
2016 2.2 XS 90 hard-top (sold)
Post #552405 30th Jul 2016 5:24pm
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gabe3105



Member Since: 25 May 2015
Location: Grimsby
Posts: 237

United Kingdom 
Had a 10 plate from new and kept it for 3 years and 20,000 miles. Apart from a small issue with one of the wiper blades one winter ( which was fixed in 10 mins) it was faultless. Best vehicle we ever had. I miss it Big Cry
Post #552409 30th Jul 2016 5:30pm
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Welshsurferdude



Member Since: 23 Feb 2012
Location: Newport
Posts: 2398

Wales 
I have a 2004 D3 HSE I bought cheaply for £7000 3 years ago and it did have a expensive 1st year as it was already at 150k then, but the last two years have been fine with just wear and tear and regular maintainace. now over 200k and still going strong. Probably still worth 5-6000 so not bad depreciateion at all lol

It has a private plate and will be totally facelifted to 2014MY 2008 Santorini Black 110 XS USW (Sold)

2015 Discovery 4.5 Black pack Firenze red XS

2008 Corris Grey 110 XS USW (sold)

2011 Santorini Black 110 XS USW (Sold)
Post #552410 30th Jul 2016 5:31pm
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wyvern



Member Since: 13 Dec 2009
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 2101

United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Firenze Red
I agree with Marsie in that most people only post things on a forum when they have issues, so the same can be said on here about the defender - look how many posts are here on the EGR valve for example ...

My partner has a 2014 XS D4 and loves it to bits ! she has off roaded it a few times now and does a lot of country driving.
She has only put fuel in it so far, but its still in its warranty. Its not to my case as I still prefer my 110.

Its a technical vehicle and has a lot of gizmos, but so do all the competition. (but having seen all the gizmos work I m impressed!)

Its a bit of a gamble what ever you buy, and I dont think the D4 is any different to any of the others in the market at the moment, however I think its probably the best for what it does. Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html
Elgar -TDCI(Puma) 110XS Dormobile - now sold
Devon & Cornwall 4x4 Response - DC126
Post #552418 30th Jul 2016 5:48pm
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dlks151



Member Since: 30 Jun 2014
Location: Auchinloch
Posts: 67

Scotland 
2nr Disco 4's for me and the only issues i've had with mine have been a creaking dash and a small drip from the shark fin.

As much as I love my Defender the Discovery 4 does everything brilliantly, an exceptional vehicle.
Post #552455 30th Jul 2016 8:08pm
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Hairy Dan



Member Since: 25 Apr 2013
Location: NW Durham
Posts: 1414

United Kingdom 1998 Defender 90 V8 Petrol 50th Auto Chawton White
I'm now on my third D4 and haven't had any real problems with any of them apart from servicing Thumbs Up Cheers Ian
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22MY Defender 110 D200 SE, Fuji White.
Kielder 4x4 Safari
Instagram @defender_v8
Post #552482 30th Jul 2016 9:23pm
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adbseries3



Member Since: 27 Apr 2016
Location: sussex
Posts: 49

England 1999 Defender 90 V8 Petrol 50th Auto Atlantis Blue
Wife has a D4 and loves it. We bought it 2012, 10 plate, and gearbox went wrong first weekend, but was easily fixed. Since then minor issues like boot not unlocking strange squeaks etc, but it is an awesome vehicle. Mechanics from main dealer says we can expect big bill next year as lots of issues likely to arise but not sure how they can know. Great for towing.
Post #552484 30th Jul 2016 9:33pm
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mick



Member Since: 08 Feb 2010
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 2109

England 2010 Defender 130 Puma 2.4 HCPU Rimini Red
Had D3 for a few years no problems and had a 10 plate D4 from new no problems and it's done over 100 thousand
In my opinion the freeby2 and Disco4 are the best motors Land Rover have made. Bow down
Post #552502 30th Jul 2016 10:14pm
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