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MrFlips

Member Since: 27 May 2009
Location: Cardiff
Posts: 682

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 PU Santorini Black

warren wrote:
I wish they'd stop putting the SVX grille on every limited edition. Am I the only one who thinks it looks awful?

No, it's truly awful and should be pensioned off immediately. (Unless you have one and like it, in which case that's all that matters). I'm completely happy with the standard grill, but wouldn't be unhappy if Land Rover wanted to go down a Stage 1/Heritage style front.

What annoys me though is this - if Land Rover are going to make a Special then make it 'Special' - build it on a galvanised chassis, give it a 2.8 TGV engine, make it out of rubber, I don't care, just make it special (and not something I could easily do myself). And why do Specials always make it upmarket - whay can't we have a lower-spec one - MOD trim with no frills and it's cheaper - I'd buy one.... Peter
2008 SWB Truck Cab
1952 80" Soft top

19th Dec 2010 1:48am

bpman

Member Since: 21 May 2008
Location: Oslo
Posts: 8069

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

warren wrote:
I wish they'd stop putting the SVX grille on every limited edition. Am I the only one who thinks it looks awful?

I have a SVX front end on my Ice edition. The SVX might not be to everyones taste (I like it) however you benefit from the additional spotlights (same units as the RRS). Basically more functional than the standard defender headlamp set up.

While we are talking about defender evolution, the Puma does not need to bulge in the bonnet - it's all part of the way the car has changed (bulges, headlamps etc) - if Land Rover did not introduce changes we'd still have headlights in front of the radiator (I don't want to offend anyone with headlamps in front of the radiator)

Galvanized chassis would be a great option (if implemented properly)

19th Dec 2010 7:54am

Glynparry25

Member Since: 16 Feb 2009
Location: Miserable Midlands
Posts: 3015

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS DCPU Tonga Green

Is it me or is that pretty much a svx (Euro spec) without the stickers and a different interior?

MrFlips wrote:
What annoys me though is this - if Land Rover are going to make a Special then make it 'Special' - build it on a galvanised chassis, give it a 2.8 TGV engine, make it out of rubber, I don't care, just make it special (and not something I could easily do myself). And why do Specials always make it upmarket - whay can't we have a lower-spec one - MOD trim with no frills and it's cheaper - I'd buy one....

The problem with the above would be that it would cost them 10 times more to do all the design, legal stuff and paperwork than they would make selling a proper 'special edition'.

As for a 'MOD spec'.... The Wolf 110s over 10 years ago cost over £30K each..... meaning they probably cost about £10K more than the top of the range back then meaning a new version would set you back about the same as the Black Pearl Limited edition

Also remember 80% of these special editions are for the European market.... German Land Rover owners don't just buy them as work/ daily vehicles.... they are hard-core enthusiasts that are willing to pay the extra to have something different.

For example... how many places in the UK sell Carbon fiber diff guards for £500:

Or should I say who here will pay that much for one?

Glyn

19th Dec 2010 7:59am

rick

Member Since: 07 Mar 2008
Location: Perth
Posts: 133

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey

MrFlips wrote:
warren wrote:
I wish they'd stop putting the SVX grille on every limited edition. Am I the only one who thinks it looks awful?

No, it's truly awful and should be pensioned off immediately. (Unless you have one and like it, in which case that's all that matters). I'm completely happy with the standard grill, but wouldn't be unhappy if Land Rover wanted to go down a Stage 1/Heritage style front.

What annoys me though is this - if Land Rover are going to make a Special then make it 'Special' - build it on a galvanised chassis, give it a 2.8 TGV engine, make it out of rubber, I don't care, just make it special (and not something I could easily do myself). And why do Specials always make it upmarket - whay can't we have a lower-spec one - MOD trim with no frills and it's cheaper - I'd buy one....

What a good idea - I'd love a stripped down, low spec version to be available. I also agree that the 'special' offerings aren't special at all, more of a cynical marketing exercise. Clearly it's time for an all new Defender - bring it on!
Cheers
Rick. 1998 RR HSE
2007 RRS TDV6
2008 Defender 110
2015 Discovery Sport

19th Dec 2010 11:40am

Happyoldgit

Member Since: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 3471

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey

^^Agreed, bar the odd exception many Defender so called special additions over the years amount to no more than a few additional bits and bobs, a bit of fancy trim and a different paint job and that's it. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades.
Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW.

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19th Dec 2010 12:12pm

Lorryman100

Member Since: 01 Oct 2010
Location: Here
Posts: 2686

Glynparry25 wrote:

For example... how many places in the UK sell Carbon fiber diff guards for £500
Or should I say who here will pay that much for one?

Ehhhhhhmmmmmm........ ME, I want it!

Where would I get one

19th Dec 2010 1:44pm

lrmaniac

Member Since: 04 Feb 2010
Location: Lisboa
Posts: 762

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Keswick Green

I only like the steering wheel .... !

Where can we get one like that ? Regards
Joao

'10 Land Rover Defender 110 CC
'08 BMW F800GS
'64 SIIA Forward Control
'69 SIIA 109 ZA CKD
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19th Dec 2010 1:58pm

mse

Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 5035

2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Scotia Grey

Just an aside - the puma does need the bonnet buldge, its not asthetical Mike

19th Dec 2010 2:29pm

bpman

Member Since: 21 May 2008
Location: Oslo
Posts: 8069

mse wrote:
Just an aside - the puma does need the bonnet buldge, its not asthetical

are you sure ?

19th Dec 2010 4:24pm

mse

Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 5035

bpman wrote:
mse wrote:
Just an aside - the puma does need the bonnet buldge, its not asthetical

are you sure ?

Yes

Look at the rear of the engine you will see for tollerance a normal bonnet will not shut Mike

19th Dec 2010 5:09pm

pjw4233

Member Since: 30 Nov 2009
Location: Lake District & Cheshire
Posts: 273

2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Stornoway Grey

bonnet bulge also required for A/C fitted defenders, as the compressor sits higher than the engine

19th Dec 2010 6:20pm

fishrider

Member Since: 01 Dec 2010
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 79

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Keswick Green

I'd love to see a another heritage special edition in the old colors . When i went to the dealership a month ago they said there wasn't one green land rover in the entire dealer network, i was gobsmacked . Also would be great if they could put a TDV6 or similar bigger engine. They used to put V8's in them ( my dad had one,went like a rocket ) so why not a TDV6 that would be "special" .

19th Dec 2010 7:54pm

pjw4233

Member Since: 30 Nov 2009
Location: Lake District & Cheshire
Posts: 273

[so why not a TDV6 that would be "special"]

I totally agree!!

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19th Dec 2010 8:12pm

fishrider

Member Since: 01 Dec 2010
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 79

Can you imagine it, quiet and powerful. Cruise all day at motor way speeds ( most important when your trying to get to morocco and have to drive 600 miles on Spanish motorways ) I love my TD5 but you'd think a company that has all those engines would offer two choices in a defender. I'd buy one

19th Dec 2010 8:56pm

Toplink

Member Since: 05 Dec 2010
Location: Somerset
Posts: 159

Sorry not my cup of tea,electric windows are my only luxury. Its never over in my land rover.
2007 Defender HTop.
1952 Series One 80"
1977 Muir-Hill 111.
2014 Triumph Tiger800xc
1999 Discovery 2 td5
1982 Ransomes TSR300D.
2002 Yamaha XT600e.
2010 Freelander2 (the wifes)
2008 John Deere X140

19th Dec 2010 9:03pm

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