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AndyS



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Sumatra Black
Stalling on warm start?
Hello,

A 2011 110 Puma, done 45k miles. Recently it's been stalling on a semi-warm start. If I drive it from cold for a short distance, say a mile or so, and park up and pop into a shop for a few minutes, on re-start the engine starts and ticks over for a few seconds then stalls. It does this up to half a dozen times then starts up and stays running and I drive off like usual. It doesn't seem to do it from a cold start or a fully warmed up re-start and seems to only do it on a semi-warm start.

It did it a few months back and using my rubbish mechanical skills I decided to top up the cooling system and the problem went away although that could have been a coincidence.

Any ideas on what it could be? I'm thinking there must be a sensor somewhere that tells the engine how rich to run the engine at a certain temperature and it's not working properly.

Thanks,
Andy.
Post #557180 19th Aug 2016 10:24am
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Cupboard



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Corris Grey
when you say it stalls, does it cut out like you've switched it off or does it judder and make nasty noises like something's causing it to stop but it doesn't really want to?
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Any DTCs?
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shaggydog



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United Kingdom 1991 Defender 110 200 Tdi USW Arles Blue
Is there any oil in the coolant and any coolant in the oil?

If your having to top up the coolant where is it going? May be an indicator of a cracked head or block. Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197

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AndyS



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Sumatra Black
It stalls like you've turned it off. It runs for long enough for the oil, alternator and other warning lights to go off.

By topping up I mean add more water to the reserve tank, it's always settled so the level is just below the fill line so I added a bit more just because being below the line triggered my inner mechanic. Of course, once it's gone through a heat cycle it's back to where it was but it seemed to be relevant. The coolant isn't going anywhere and the oil is clean (by clean I mean "needs a service black"). The engine has good power so I'm pretty sure it's not cylinder head or head gasket. Pretty sure it's not fuel filter either because it has full power.

In fact, the car seems to be fine in every other way. It just stalls on semi-warm start. It bothers me because it's MOT time in October and I don't want it doing that while they're trying to get it to the test area.

What's DTC?
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dorsetsmith



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Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC ) are stored in the Engine Control
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AndyS



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Sumatra Black
Hello,

I haven't got a code reading device so I don't know if there are any codes. There are no warning lights on the dash so if there are codes it's not bad enough to light the warning light.
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dorsetsmith



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not all engine problem on will puma tdci will show DTC i.e. cam position sender
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