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How do you intend to vote in the eu referendum on June 23rd?
Leave
60%
 60%  [88]
Remain
32%
 32%  [47]
Undecided
7%
 7%  [11]
Total Votes: 146

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mk1collector



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Well, it does detract from the point because you were saying only 75% of people voted so it's not a real view of what this country wanted and that young people have basically been steam rollered into this decision that they didn't want at all, which if they aren't voting isn't really true. Ray
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ickle



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I'll happily admit to voting to stay. I do fear a recession and from what I can see, we don't produce enough food to feed ourselves and we import more goods than we export, so the shortfall is made up from the financial services sector - the last global recession has made me wary of that group.

However I want to look on the positive so I am looking to invest in UK based business and have chosen Reckitt Benckiser Group plc based in slough - why, cause they make KY jelly and I think sales will soar as we're going to be bent over and royally rodgered by the EU as an example to the rest of Europe..........
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LoveTheMud wrote:
We have an aging population, now with no pensions and savings wont cover it when we have a zero interest rate...





The BBC must have its Chrystal ball out as nobody knows who voted which way never mind the ages of those who voted one way or another. Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard
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[quote="ickle"]I'll happily admit to voting to stay. I do fear a recession and from what I can see, we don't produce enough food to feed ourselves and we import more goods than we export, so the shortfall is made up from the financial services sector - the last global recession has made me wary of that group.



Reckon I will cope 220 mircobrewers in Yorkshire and plenty of good butchers and farm shops so I won't run dry or starve Mr. Green
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What disappoints me the most is that the politicians don't know what the UK have voted for. They're going to take three months before the invoke article 50 so they can discuss what Brexit means in parliament. If they don't know what it means why have they given the UK the option to vote on it? That basically means they didn't expect a Brexit vote which means they tried to play the public which means they're out of touch with all that goes on at ground level because they lost. That's a sad state of affairs, however you voted.
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ARC99



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I have just read through the posts of the last two days and I am amazed at some of posts, people that are so full of hatred of those that voted against their wished, the old because we have had it so good and don't have long to live.

I have worked hard since the age of 16, scrimped and saved to buy a house, paid tax and still do on my pension, my body is shot due to the hard work and the condition I sometimes worked in.

The young of this country see the E.U. as a bright shinning star to lead them through the rest of their lives, are they not aware of the sacrifice by thousands of men and women to prevent a certain German who wanted to rule Europe just like the current leader and her friends who run the E.U. .

I have read here and else were complaints, predominantly by the Stayers , that 16 year olds were not allowed to vote why should they, they cannot drive a motor vehicle on a road, obtain a bank loan, a mortgage, buy alcohol and a lot of other things. They still need a legal/parental representative in legal matters so why do these people thing that a 16 yr. old is mature enough to voted.

I voted against joining the Common Market after reading a German Trade Union paper that had been translated into English which outlined the plans of the leaders of the Germany for the Common Market and how they intended to run Europe. Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard
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AndyS



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Still about the war is it ARC99?
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custom90



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Still the bickering continues. Rolling Eyes
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Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter All those that voted to remain and feel personally aggrieved about the result could theoretically up sticks and move to Scotland in an attempt to 'remain.' Best do it in the next two years four months before the border goes up!. Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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custom90



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Scottish wall of well Scotland? Rolling with laughter
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I'd imagine planning will be voided from the outset. Laughing
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I voted in because I believe that problems are best solved by working together. I believe that having strong neighbours makes us and the world a better place. I want to be part of a country that trades with the outside world and the best way of doing that is to have common standards.

I believe that the EU makes us stronger along with the other members.

It's not perfect, there are many problems but at the heart of it is an ideal that I subscribe to. Maybe I'm a naive idealist (I do, after all, own a Land Rover), but I'd prefer to at least aim towards something that I want.

I was extremely disappointed with the campaigns from both sides and have been extremely disappointed talking to people I know about it. There has been no good debating, no proper testing of opinions either way and a lot of people (on both sides) have seeming been taking a great pride in ignorance. That is an embarrassing and shameful situation to be in.

Without a doubt we can make a go of it. In the same way that people can make high performance luxury Defenders, anything is possible if you put a bit of effort in to it and you might even end up with something better in some way than before (but I'm not about to fit low profile tyres to my Defender). However whilst I am disappointed by the outcome I am far, far more disappointed in how people I have talked to have made their decisions. Iron sharpens iron, a good debate with people not afraid to challenge their own views makes both sides learn something. I haven't felt that from the campaigning and very few people I have spoken to with firmly held beliefs have been able to back them up in a way that stands up.

I think my frustrations with the Leave campaign have been epitomised by Farage's reactions to the result and things like the video where he says that the "£350 million a week for the NHS" was a mistake.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36624697

Since the result I have come across people effectively now claiming we can put two fingers up to Syrian refugees, which I think is appalling. Our being part of the EU has not caused the civil war that they're fleeing, but can have everything to do in helping them. We should be doing everything in our power to help them and how better to do that than to work with a team doing so. Even without the EU we still have a duty to our fellow citizens, they are after all humans. Whilst I'm sure it was done for the best of reasons at the time, in hindsight we've also played a role in destabilising the whole area making it harder for the countries surrounding them to help more locally.
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Rather ironic that immigration played a major factor of yesterday's result, now sterling has taken a serious dump, will now make the uk much cheaper and more inviting to the very people the leave voters wanted to stop. Gun, foot, shoot, bang, ouch!!! Jumped ship to reliability - Mitsubishi L200
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