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| Retroanaconda Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2698  
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Put a non-return valve in the washer line, that way the fluid won't drain back and it will squirt from the moment you press the stalk.
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4th Jun 2016 4:32pm |
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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2769 
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That's odd, mine doesn't do that. Water squirts immediately when pressing the button Cheers, David
Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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4th Jun 2016 5:11pm |
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| mk1collector Member Since: 17 Sep 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 6772  
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If you put the vw relay upgrade in it still wipes but only a couple of times instead of the 500 wipes on the standard relay plus you get total control over the intermittent time. Ray
My build thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17615.html |
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4th Jun 2016 5:15pm |
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| apt100 Member Since: 05 Mar 2015 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 1547 
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^^^ plus you can do a short squirt without activating the wipers. So you can get plenty of water on before the wipers activate if you are prepared to do a series of several short squirts first
edit to clarify that I was referring to the VW or "99" relay. Last edited by apt100 on 5th Jun 2016 10:52am. Edited 1 time in total |
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4th Jun 2016 5:20pm |
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| gazman Member Since: 17 Aug 2015 Location: Liverpool Posts: 652 
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vw relay upgrade. that's the 1st I've heard of it. Google here I come! 2014 - current ..... 2003 defender td5 90 (my car)
2009 - current .... 2005 zx10r |
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4th Jun 2016 7:32pm |
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| mk1collector Member Since: 17 Sep 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 6772
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Look here
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic1810.h...iper+relay Ray My build thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17615.html |
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4th Jun 2016 11:09pm |
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| Alien Member Since: 18 Jan 2015 Location: Bacchus Marsh Posts: 230 
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This is also something that bugs me.
I've just had a look at my RAVE wiring diagram('12 on) and I think I've found a cheats way to eliminate the wipe function. The single feed from the switch splits into 2, pump and wiper relay and all using Light Green with a Black trace wires. Behind the instrument cluster towards the left(Both LH & RH drive) is plug C0285, a yellow 20 pin connecter. Pin 18 is the feed from the washer switch. Pin 17 is the washer pump supply. Pin 19 triggers the wiper relay. So, if I cut the wire feeding pin 19(allowing enough to resolder if needed) this should stop a signal to the wiper relay. This should turn the washer switch to a wash only function and I can then turn the wiper on and off as I want. All going to plan I'll have my cluster out next weekend to change the radio antenna cable so I'll investigate it then. I'm going to extend the Orange/Grey alarm/fob wire to extend the range while there too. Cheers, Kyle. Cheers, Kyle. |
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5th Jun 2016 10:29am |
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| Marks Landy Member Since: 09 Feb 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 301 
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Thanks for the replys.
Alien, did you cut the feed to the pump at the wiper switch? I will have a look for the wire you mention at the pump to see if it can be de pinned. Ta Mark |
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10th Jun 2016 9:36am |
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| Alien Member Since: 18 Jan 2015 Location: Bacchus Marsh Posts: 230
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Tomorrow job Mark with my other jobs.
I'll try and do photos as I go and do write up if it works. Cheers, Kyle. |
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10th Jun 2016 12:48pm |
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| Alien Member Since: 18 Jan 2015 Location: Bacchus Marsh Posts: 230
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Well I could not find the yellow plug but then the grey matter kicked in and I now have a wash only function
What I did... Removed the inside fuse box cover. Remove wiper relay(picture next post) Uncliped the relay base and pull it forward(picture 2 below) I removed the red insert and with a fine screw driver pulled the LightGreen with a Black trace wire and terminal out.(picture 1 below) (Testing at this point proved every thing else still works as it should) Taped it up to stop shorts and refited the red insert. Put it back on the clip, fitted the relay and cover. Job done. If you don't want to remove the terminal I'd cut the wire 1" from the holder and insulate it all up. This should allow for it to be rejoined if required. (Pictures taken after I proved it worked and before putting it all back together.)  Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Cheers, Kyle. Last edited by Alien on 11th Jun 2016 7:27am. Edited 6 times in total |
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11th Jun 2016 6:31am |
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| Alien Member Since: 18 Jan 2015 Location: Bacchus Marsh Posts: 230
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Missing picture, wiper relay...
Click image to enlarge Cheers, Kyle. |
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11th Jun 2016 6:33am |
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| apt100 Member Since: 05 Mar 2015 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 1547
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If I've followed correctly you have removed one connection from the relay base (the Green/Black).
Just a thought...(now that you have done the hard work ) if anyone wanted to do the same thing but plug and play without modifying the vehicle itself - you could CAREFULLY cut off the contact tab from the relay itself?
To reverse you would need a new relay. Alternatively there is likely to be a like for like replacement relay with this pin missing as standard. It would need a trawl through a manufacturer's catalogue (or two). With a bit of luck it might be very cheap and easily available, depending on how common it is used in other vehicles. |
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11th Jun 2016 11:44am |
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| Alien Member Since: 18 Jan 2015 Location: Bacchus Marsh Posts: 230
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Cutting the pin off the relay would work
As you said it's a permanent solution though. By the time you flafed around to do it I would think it'd be quicker to cut and tape the wire. It's only one joiner away from returning the function if required this way. Similar to the wire and fuse you can see in the window relay position in the photo. This allows the front electric Windows to work all the time not needing the ignition to be on, great for when camping. This is also my "keys locked in car" entry strategy, lever the window frame out and use the UHF aerial to push the window button 
The relay is in my cubby box so can be fitted at anytime to return to normal. When I do any modification I try to allow for it to easily be returned to original specifications. Don't know why as this unit is a keeper but it's old habits, particularly if it's a road worthy(MOT) item. Cheers, Kyle. |
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11th Jun 2016 6:11pm |
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| Marks Landy Member Since: 09 Feb 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 301
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Since I am working Christmas I figured a treat was needed.. Type 99 relay fitted, money well spent.
Very handy on long drivers in cruddy weather. And now the windscreen washer now works without dragging dry wiper blades across the screen. |
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19th Dec 2016 4:53am |
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