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| Lancerdoc999 Member Since: 10 Apr 2016 Location: South Wales Posts: 205  
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another idea on a theme
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21st May 2016 7:43am |
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| miker Member Since: 13 Sep 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 1763 
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It will be messy and horrible whatever!!
If suggest get it as high as practical on axle stands, then just use a crawler board. |
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21st May 2016 8:45am |
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| Lancerdoc999 Member Since: 10 Apr 2016 Location: South Wales Posts: 205
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That was my worst case plan! I think will get 400x400x50 pressed concrete slabs as don't cost that much and pile them up to about 30-40cm then axle stands on these. Should be pretty solid and raise the whole thing up enough to get better access for spraying and then painting etc.
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21st May 2016 9:18am |
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| Zagato Site Supporter Member Since: 08 Jan 2011 Location: Billingshurst West Sussex Posts: 5013
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Careful with paving slabs, bricks, breeze blocks etc as they can crack. breeze/concrete blocks used to build a permanent cemented ramp is a safer option.
Same goes when using axle stands on paving slabs, block driveways etc. Always make sure whatever you are loading onto is sound, e.g the foundations for blocks, slabs can erode over time or not be put down properly in the first place, same goes with Tarmac especially in very hot weather... Easy for things to sink into it... Good wood blocks are safer... the pic above looks good especially if the wheels were chocked! |
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21st May 2016 11:14am |
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| X4SKP Member Since: 29 Nov 2013 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2295 
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Hello Lancerdoc999
I went through a similar 'how too' series of thoughts / ideas, and ended up adapting a set of 4 drive on ramps evolved from standard metal car ramps, strengthened with extra metalwork, each of which now sits on two oak blocks that engage / lock in underneath (and lift the metal ramps up) and accept a wider drive up 'ramps' that sits on top. First step is to drive up all 4 ramps simultaneously, secondly I jacked up the front and then back with a trolley jack to 'block out' as shown with more oak blocks (cut from railway sleepers), each block has been carefully selected and are shake (crack) free, they have also been skim planed, so sit on each other without any rocking. Looks somewhat precarious (may be) but I could and did rock the vehicle, quite aggressively to be really sure. I also reversed the rear ramps when blocking out so that the front and rear arrangement 'face-in' towards each other so any front or back movement has no effect encouraging a topple...to complete the set up I left the trolley jack in place just under the centre of each axle when working at either end...took a few hours to set up, but got the Defender almost 0.5 M higher than normal and definitely made applying under body treatments easier... Getting any set up wrong is obviously to be avoided... 
Good Luck...(take care...  )
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21st May 2016 4:13pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20453
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I did mine on the floor as is, safest that way and it's a
 of a job to do what ever.
Use a respirator too, or you will breathe the stuff in. |
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21st May 2016 4:19pm |
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| mikeh501 Member Since: 07 Jan 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1142
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I found a friendly garage who had an outside lift 😀 didn't charge me anything
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21st May 2016 5:48pm |
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| Lancerdoc999 Member Since: 10 Apr 2016 Location: South Wales Posts: 205
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Have solid laid concrete to lay the slabs on. I think Ill go for the compressed concrete version which is nice and flat. Might even sick them together with a little cement also as I build it up. I might then add a slice of hard wood on the top them drilled and screwed in so axle stand won't slip. could fix axle stands in place somehow then. Not planning on going too high, just enough to make life that bit easier! At £3-4 per slab shouldn't work out too expensive.
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21st May 2016 6:33pm |
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| Lancerdoc999 Member Since: 10 Apr 2016 Location: South Wales Posts: 205
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I thought of this also. I'm not aware of any in my area. I know you can rent a ramp in Bristol but I'm sure they won't dig the pressuring washing etc! |
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21st May 2016 6:35pm |
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| uncas Member Since: 22 Nov 2012 Location: Wentworth near Rotherham Posts: 340
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I wouldn't be putting any vehicle on car ramps and sitting it on wooden blocks with all four wheels off, that's a good photo to be showing how Not to work on a vehicle or should I say how to book an early ride in coffin. How many moving parts have you got there u xer the axles? If you have to put it on car ramps leave the wheels on. Murphy's law rules if it can go wrong it will
Barry |
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21st May 2016 7:51pm |
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| Chris86 Member Since: 15 Jul 2014 Location: South Yorks Posts: 789 
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I'd probably be looking at trying to find a local commercial vehicles garage and seeing if you could give them a crate of beverages to borrow a set of big axle stands....
Chris |
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21st May 2016 7:57pm |
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| ickle Member Since: 22 Jul 2010 Location: South Vendee Posts: 1786  
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https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/as30a-axle-stands/
A Defender is a heavy lump should it fall on you and £200 on stands will be an investment for future clutch and adapter shaft changes! |
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21st May 2016 8:33pm |
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| Zagato Site Supporter Member Since: 08 Jan 2011 Location: Billingshurst West Sussex Posts: 5013
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Paid £60 last week for four 3ton each axle stands as SGS are having a sale. Ratchet plus safety pin type
http://www.sgs-engineering.com/garage-equipment/axle-stands Next day delivery... SGS are a reputable firm, used a lot by folks on other car forums. Trolley jacks have good feedback also and I bought some wheel dollies (pictured) which were good quality... Ordering 4 more in a minute for £60 delivered so I can pull my lift out...
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22nd May 2016 5:37am |
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| Lancerdoc999 Member Since: 10 Apr 2016 Location: South Wales Posts: 205
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taller axle stands will do nicely i think. Only issue I guess is having to jack the vehicle up higher to get it on.
Plan update. 3-4 600x600x50 compressed slabs cemented together and to the floor. This will give me a little rise off the floor. Taller axle stands with a couple of scaffold poles going between them clamping them together with a pole coming off going to a connecter bolted into the concrete floor. This will stop the stands from wobbling and tilting when the front or rear is raised. Scaffold poles and connectors are pretty cheap to buy or rent and should make anything more stable. Thoughts? |
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22nd May 2016 8:15am |
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