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| Projectblue Member Since: 22 Nov 2011 Location: Devon Posts: 1096  
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Everything everyone has already said - plus;
Bored dogs destroy things. They go berserk when you get back because they have had separation anxiety and are so happy to see you. This means often that people (e.g. spouse) are less than understanding because the dog, which is supposed to be clever is not settling at all. What is separation anxiety? - Dogs are pack animals and when the pack leaves, it will feel abandoned and it believes you won't come back. Then you return and there is a massive relief. Young dogs especially. It may be possible to introduce to an older dog (e.g. over 3 years) by increasing the hours you leave them, coming back each time. You might, if you get lucky, find a dog that you can do four hours and someone coming home for half hour at lunch is enough. But that's a might. Also, cockapoo or labradoodle (apart from actually just being cleverly named mongrels  ) are not the best kind. They are lively dogs that need interaction. You'd need a slow, chilled couch potato dog. But as a few have said, really you need a cat. New project and it's green: www.projectoverland.info |
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4th May 2016 10:32pm |
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| RED-DOT Member Since: 29 Jun 2009 Location: stirling Posts: 2363 
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....... a goldfish? 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS..
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5th May 2016 4:24am |
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| jimbob7 Member Since: 06 Jul 2013 Location: uk Posts: 2055 |
Ultra feral means he bites my hand when i feed him..........lol. Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.
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5th May 2016 9:54am |
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| agentmulder Member Since: 16 Apr 2016 Location: Outer Space Posts: 1324 
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I really want a dog - seems like the landy is missing one! Will be a rescue, but if I could choose would be a Blue Heeler, Aus Cattle dog and/or Mutley with the right attitude for our carry on (hikes, sticks, chase, ball, jump, water, wind in face etc.)
I'm waiting for a permanent job with a dog friendly workplace though, which does happen - last three contracts were all accomodating, in fact I'd sometimes opt in to be on walk duty  Solved the bowel problem, working on the consonants...Last edited by agentmulder on 16th May 2016 8:32am. Edited 1 time in total |
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16th May 2016 6:52am |
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| Paulv8 Member Since: 09 Jun 2013 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 618 
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...also worth pointing out that the "Clever name for Mongrels" as described above, inflate people's desire for such animals and encourage "breeders" who mistreat animals and sell the pups for a small fortune. The practice should be discouraged. V8 90...WIP
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16th May 2016 8:18am |
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| RFT Member Since: 13 Nov 2010 Location: Cheshire Posts: 681  
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We have a tri-colour border collie, he has a kennel and run in the garden and has slept outdoors all his life, we work from home some days and others he can be alone for 8 hours and he has never damaged anything.
He is from working farm stock and has endless energy when needed and sleeps when no there is no "work" to be done. He can sleep in his cage in the 130 for 4 hours without a break and then he will leap to life and walk a mountain, play on the beach etc. We regulate his food depending upon if it is going to be an active day or a quiet day. However we have had him since he was 8 weeks old. He is loved by us all and loves us (and most of our village), I can not imagine this being possible with some of the rescue collies I have met as the psychological damage is already done with them. 130 Puma HCPU with an Artica 240LR Demountable Camper |
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16th May 2016 8:29am |
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| J@mes Member Since: 20 Apr 2012 Location: Bomber County Posts: 36
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I'm going to buck the trend and say we have a Labrador, she's 7 years now and we've had her since 7 weeks old.
She spends 3 days a week at home for 8+ hours on her own and we haven't had an ounce of trouble. She hasn't destroyed anything since she was two, and even then she tore the Lino up in the kitchen once. We've lived in 3 different houses and none of the neighbours have ever reported any barking, howling or signs of distress. She's incredibly attentive, works on command, gentle with our two year old and fully obedient. To me, she's the perfect dog. She gets run every morning for between 5-10k off lead and spends the rest of the day asleep in her bed. When I get home she isn't busting for the toilet, often just laying on the patio for a time before finally going. We introduced separation slowly by taking time off work to be with her and over the course of 8 weeks got her used to being without us. It worked, and I'd do it again with the next dog. I bought my dog by the way, local rescue centre said I wasn't suitable because I couldn't get home every two hours to let a dog out. Fair enough. But I bet my dog has a better life than the ones there which live in a concrete room with regimented walks and nothing else for months on end. Ours goes camping, caravanning, skiing, comes shooting with me, great big walks at the weekends, swims in rivers, ponds and terribly smelly ditches. She's fine   |
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16th May 2016 9:01am |
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| Muddywheels Member Since: 03 Mar 2016 Location: East Riding of Yorkshire Posts: 79
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Having owned a puppy and 2 rescue dogs I see the merit in both of the above posts
A puppy is easier to mould to your lifestyle as it never knows anything different A rescue has usually been mistreated and had a different routine which means putting in a lot of effort to make it work I've had success with a lab rescue and been defeated by a parson. The westie puppy has been the easiest dog I've known and just fits in with us so easily Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW Still hoping for a S2 one day! |
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16th May 2016 9:10am |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5038 
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Dogs are great
We have had 2 collies and a spaniel, yes the prefer meto be home all day, but will happily do 8 or 9 hours at home and except when puppies haven't destroyed anything (they also like fireworks!) Get them into a routine, teach them change is good and there is no reason why they can't be part of your family while you work Mike |
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17th May 2016 4:08pm |
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| Muddywheels Member Since: 03 Mar 2016 Location: East Riding of Yorkshire Posts: 79
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Hi Mike - not seen one of your posts for a while - so this is where you're hiding now
Agree - Dogs like routine and you can get them into yours if you have patience and start young Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW
Still hoping for a S2 one day! |
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17th May 2016 4:20pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471 
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Typing as someone who has been around dogs all my life [both kenneled workers and household pets]...
There was an interesting programme on tv some while ago where they set up video cameras to monitor the behaviour of a selection of dogs left alone in the house all day. I seem to recall there were animals who, while they showed no tendency to damage property did show signs of separation anxiety and stress when their owners left the house. Naturally the owners were blissfully unaware of this until they witnessed the footage of the behaviour. Steve. Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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17th May 2016 5:30pm |
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| ginjez Member Since: 18 Sep 2011 Location: huddersfield Posts: 1763 
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Not a dog owner myself but the Panorama programme last night was both shocking and upsetting showing breeding on a mass scale - buyer beware.
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17th May 2016 6:59pm |
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| Stacey007 Member Since: 25 Sep 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3760
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Thanks all.
Some interesting points of view. Its on the back burner for now, On Saturday a Rabbit we had checked at the vets a week before to say was not pregnant and was booked in for this Monday for an op on Sunday had 7 Babies...
So the pet count for now in our house is 22
Maybe a dog would be handy at herding the chickens and ducks in |
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17th May 2016 7:03pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5038
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Hi I'm fine thanks are you? Just seemingly have a lot on to keep me occupied, tend to be here or on the d4 forum when on line. I have internal cameras to watch the dogs...or perve as I call it...so no surprise what they get up to...most if not all the times in the day they are fast asleep...I even have the alerts for temperature etc. I think it comes from how you bring them up and ,asking them used to you going and returning...I'm adamant with with right upbringing you can leave them no problem (and I bet there are loads of people who do daily) Mike |
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17th May 2016 7:37pm |
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