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lrMike

Member Since: 26 Feb 2010
Location: Athens
Posts: 177

Oil leaking

Goodmorning to everybody!

Just today I decided to share with you an issue with my new Def (10.000km) MY2010. since I first got it from the dealer. As you can see in the following attached photos there is a small oil leaking in the area close to the front bottom part of the engine. The leaking is small since after a week parked in the same spot without moving it I can see only a small "pool" of oil with a diameter of 3cm.

I guess that when the engine is working and the oil gets hotter and thiner the leaking must be worse that's why I see all the wet areas from oil around. While checking the oil dipstick there is no significant decrease in the oil level.

When I got it to the dealer two weeks ago they told me they would tighten the screws around a bit and then check again. Its been around 800km after this tightening and the leaking is still there. Could you please offer any ideas about the nature of the problem even if it is of minor importance since I am still under warranty and I want this issue to be solved.

On the otherhand a great car, being already a member of the family and enjoying it even if I have to put 1lt of oil per week to keep it going

Thank you very much!!

14th Nov 2010 11:37am

Lorryman100

Member Since: 01 Oct 2010
Location: Here
Posts: 2686

Quote:

When I got it to the dealer two weeks ago they told me they would tighten the screws around a bit and then check again. Its been around 800km after this tightening and the leaking is still there. Could you please offer any ideas about the nature of the problem even if it is of minor importance since I am still under warranty and I want this issue to be solved.

I personaly would book it into the dealers and get them to replace the leaking gasket under warranty. It is costing you money every week by you putting in a liter of oil plus the mess. The fact that the dealer nipped up the bolts and it is still leaking means the gasket has failed and will need replaced.

14th Nov 2010 12:41pm

LESVOSD110

Member Since: 19 Aug 2009
Location: South Africa
Posts: 241

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Fuji White

Yep,take it back to the dealer to get replaced. Puma 110 SW
90 V8 SOFT TOP

14th Nov 2010 1:22pm

fekete

Member Since: 24 Dec 2008
Location: Here on the other end of the computer
Posts: 3626

2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Bonatti Grey

I was told by the dealer that Defenders are self lubricating

Take it back get them to sort it

NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY

14th Nov 2010 1:42pm

Eduardo

Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Región Metropolitana
Posts: 2109

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey

LRMike,

Take to the dealers to replace the gasket under warranty, and also request at least a free oil change due all the oil lost during those weeks.

Cheers Eduardo

MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64'
MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo"

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15th Nov 2010 11:13am

lrMike

Member Since: 26 Feb 2010
Location: Athens
Posts: 177

Thank you all for your replies my friends.

I will go to the dealer to change the gasket under warranty which, if it is something complicated to do I am afraid the dealer will fix this but might damage other things in the process.

I don't really trust them to put their hands there. Is this gasket difficult to be removed and what does it seal?

Thank you!

Mike.

15th Nov 2010 2:35pm

Lorryman100

Member Since: 01 Oct 2010
Location: Here
Posts: 2686

It looks like the timing cover gasket will need to be replaced. Which means removing the accessory drive belt idler assembly and the crankshaft pulley and a few other things just to get access to the cover. Would think they would remove engine to do this unless they strip down the front of the landy, intercooler and radiator removed. Not 100% sure but some one more in the know will come along and tell you. Hope I am wrong......

16th Nov 2010 12:58am

lrMike

Member Since: 26 Feb 2010
Location: Athens
Posts: 177

After a small search I did inside the workshop manual I came across this interesting photo in which there is a clear depiction of how is the sealant around the front cover.

Inside the manual it is stated :
The pressed steel front cover is bolted to the front of the cylinder block, the cylinder head and the ladder frame with 20 bolts and sealed with a bead of Room Temperature Vulcanizing (RTV) silicon sealant.

So I am wondering if this silicon sealant failed and waiting from some experts around here to give me your opinion.

Another possible cause of my oil leaking might be the crankshaft front oil seal:

Well what do you think? In each case you think its a major job to fix either of the above? Would you consider leaving the oil leak as it is since it is barely noticable while having in mind that my Def is marking its area ?

17th Nov 2010 6:45pm

Lorryman100

Member Since: 01 Oct 2010
Location: Here
Posts: 2686

I would book it into the dealers tomorrow morning first thing and get it fixed under warranty, especially now you can see the extent of the problem. Just the cost of topping up the oil by 1ltr per week over the term you keep the landrover will set you back a few bob and sods law the thing will fail completely once you are out of warranty costing you a small fortune in labour charges in getting the dealer to fix it. But that is what I would do, after all you paid for the privilage of owning one, let Landrover have the privilage of looking after it for the first 3 years of its life!!!!

18th Nov 2010 12:08am

lrMike

Member Since: 26 Feb 2010
Location: Athens
Posts: 177

Dear Brian,

Thank you for your concern and I will defenately visit the dealer to fix it. Maybe there was a misunderstanding about the magnitude of the oil leak. There is only a minor leaking right now. Not more than 10ml per month. It is barely noticeable. The misunderstanding came from the fact that I said I will still be in love with my def even if I have to add 1 litre of oil per week

I am afraid that they will not do the repair job in a proper manner thats why I am hesitant to go there for such a small oil leaking. But I am also afraid of getting worse after the end of the warranty period so the most wise decision is to fix it right here and right now!!

Anyway thank you for everything my friend!

18th Nov 2010 2:43pm

pom

Member Since: 01 Jun 2010
Location: Worcester
Posts: 1343

take pics of everything before you let the dealer monkeys loose on it just in case!

Pom

18th Nov 2010 4:20pm

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