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Muddywheels

Member Since: 03 Mar 2016
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire
Posts: 79

Just saying hi and hoping to join the series club

I've been a LR owner for 16 years and a LR nut for 40

The reason - I spent school holidays in Scotland visiting grandparents at the cottage they rented and most of this time in the back of a Series LR on the farm checking sheep and cattle. This involved river crossings, mud and lots of hill climbs

When I left school and started my career my boss ferried me round in a series 2 for a year training me and it all came back although winter without a heater and rain dripping through the canvas roof may of been slightly unnerving after the sunny open top Farm days

So I've gone through FL1s, FL2s, D2s, RRSs and currently in a DS but what I've always wanted is a Series - I like the defender but seeing a series is way more inticing than a Ferrari or Porsche so I'm officially insane apparently

I've been member on Martins sites since 07 depending on which LR I had and dropped in here to do research but only just decided to join and post now - sorry it's been so long

Anyway I waffle - the reason I'm here now is my big 50 this year and I've finally beaten swmbo into submission on the series. I'm allowed to spend some money on me for a change instead of handbags, shoes and coats for her

I'm capable of fitting towbars and electrics, building houses and restoring old buildings but probably not restoring a series so a project is out I think. I've looked on net and found some immaculate vehicles from dealers with I assume pretty good mark ups

So knowing the type of person who frequents these forums I think my best bet is to give a home to a lovingly restored series by another LR nut. Over the years here I've learnt imho members know more than the dealers so I'm sure this is the best plan

I'm not looking to offroad it or use it as my daily runner. This is to be my Sunday toy, kept in the garage and lavished with tlc and hopefully passed on to my son. So am I mad or on the right track. Answers on a postcard to...

Seriously any information is greatly appreciated and I hope to be spending more time here researching and sharing the LR addiction

8th Mar 2016 9:39am

Muddywheels

Member Since: 03 Mar 2016
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire
Posts: 79

So I've been doing more research and it appears S3 all have syncromesh, some late S2A may but S2 and S1 don't

I'd set my heart on a S2 but now unsure - I've never driven a vehicle without syncromesh and it sounds messy or am I overthinking it

The Land Rover Centre Huddersfield are not far from me and have some nice examples so I'm wondering if anyone here has experience they can share please

I have to admit I feel like the new kid at school that nobody wants to talk too at the moment

Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

11th Mar 2016 1:30pm

shaggydog

Member Since: 12 Aug 2012
Location: Kent
Posts: 3347

1991 Defender 110 200 Tdi USW Arles Blue

All your points sound valid

Driving without a syncromesh is a very different method of driving but like all things, the more you do it the better you get at it.

I cant really help on the series front as I have only ever had defenders but have driven series and I think for what you want from it your bang on the money.

I suppose the best bet would be to stick up a wanted advert in the for sale section and to keep your eyes pealed.

Best of luck

Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197

Self confessed mileage hunter

11th Mar 2016 1:39pm

Muddywheels

Member Since: 03 Mar 2016
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire
Posts: 79

Cheers Shaggydog

I will look at your restoration - it sounds great - I just wish I was more capable and had the time

11th Mar 2016 1:45pm

ian series 1

Member Since: 17 Nov 2014
Location: south
Posts: 3127

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Bonatti Grey

Hi
Why not have a look at the Series clubs on the web.
You will find it a better place to start looking, with vehicles changing hands through enthusiasts, not dealers making a quick buck with some old dog that's been blown over.
Be warned, there are plenty around like that!!

Make sure you know what your looking at, and research as much as possible.
Bodged chassis and bulkheads can be a real money pit.

Sounds like you need to see a few and decide what your after?
Later series are a tad more refined than the 1s and early 2s.
Don't be put off by a non Syncro box,it's all part of their charm.

You will find that your budget will decide for you on what you want.
Genuine 1s are fetching big money now, and parts can be tricky to find.
2s are close behind. 3s still cheap ones about but they will steadily climb up in value.
Parts are plenty full and cheap for the s3.

Hope you get to find the one you want,
Look forward to seeing some photos very soon

80" 80" 86" 88" 90"

Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered.

11th Mar 2016 2:20pm

Muddywheels

Member Since: 03 Mar 2016
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire
Posts: 79

Cheers Ian

I prefer the look of the S2 and was scared off by the price of S1

I live close to a big Series parts supplier and have got to know a local LR indi over the years so that should help keep it running

I'm fed up of losing shedloads of money on LRs so hoping this will combine investment with my hobby

I'm doing lot's of research and I can see it's a minefield which is why I joined here. Owners are the best source of information everytime

11th Mar 2016 2:34pm

Muddywheels

Member Since: 03 Mar 2016
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire
Posts: 79

In case anyone doubts my LR addiction and just to show I get around

http://www.discosportforums.co.uk/memberli...&u=866

http://www.rrsport.co.uk/forum/member-muddywheels.html

http://discosport.com/forum/member-muddywheels.html

http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/member-muddywheels.html

http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/member-muddywheels4wd.html

http://www.freel2.com/forum/member-muddywheels.html

It drives SWMBO mad

11th Mar 2016 2:45pm

Go Beyond

Member Since: 30 Jan 2012
Location: Headcorn, Kent
Posts: 6678

Series 2's are quite rare and consequently expensive, it's a 2a that you want (not easy to tell them apart anyway)

It's only first to second that doesn't have a synchromesh, the rest do

11th Mar 2016 3:03pm

Muddywheels

Member Since: 03 Mar 2016
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire
Posts: 79

I read that in my research and have visions of me sat at traffic light crunching gears with everyone looking and shaking their heads

Father in law says he learnt to drive in a "crash box" and owned pre select too but it's all gobbledygook to me - I learned to drive mid 80's and been spoiled. I went auto 2004 and rarely driven manual since

Guess I need to drive one and decide but swaying towards S3 at moment

11th Mar 2016 3:15pm

RRUK
Site Supporter

Member Since: 31 Mar 2010
Location: Leicestershire
Posts: 2025

But annoyingly its the change from 1st to 2nd that normally needs to be swift, and double de-clutching isn't quick!

There's bags of character in some of the earlier coil sprung models too, don't discount them, just as much fun to fettle and your son will thank you for the increased comfort! 2016 D4 HSE

1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF

1982 Series 3 SWB Petrol

11th Mar 2016 3:16pm

Go Beyond

Member Since: 30 Jan 2012
Location: Headcorn, Kent
Posts: 6678

'Swift' isn't a term that can be used with a 2a

The whole idea of driving a Series is that you take life at a slower more simpler pace.

Double declutching is not hard, you soon get the hang of it.

11th Mar 2016 3:20pm

Muddywheels

Member Since: 03 Mar 2016
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire
Posts: 79

I like the look of this

http://www.johnbrown4x4.com/current-stock/...-early-yuj Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

11th Mar 2016 3:23pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17450

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

Mastering a non-snchro box is remarkably easy and gives you techniques that are advantageous on all vehicles. Don't be put off by the lack of synchro.

Non-synchro boxes tend to be stronger, too.

11th Mar 2016 4:11pm

Go Beyond

Member Since: 30 Jan 2012
Location: Headcorn, Kent
Posts: 6678

Muddywheels wrote:
I like the look of this

http://www.johnbrown4x4.com/current-stock/...-early-yuj

Perfect !

11th Mar 2016 4:13pm

pjb

Member Since: 08 Apr 2009
Location: Sunny Oxford
Posts: 1244

Muddywheels wrote:
I like the look of this

http://www.johnbrown4x4.com/current-stock/...-early-yuj

Looks very nice and welcome MW from someone who also has moved through most of Martin's forums

Good luck in your search 2020 P300 HSE

11th Mar 2016 4:17pm

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