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m33ufo



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Defender Height?
Noticed that the height of a 90XS SW as identified within the LR brochure came within quite a range:

"HEIGHT (Vehicle height depends on tyre and suspension options) 2,000-2,182mm"

I hadn't realised there were suspension options? And there's only one tyre size on the 90XS Sw, isn't there?
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mse



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I keep meaning to measure the 110.

I drove into a village hall car park for work and the sign said 2.1m i drove in slowly and used the aerial check no problem...whilst waiting for the meeting checked the handbook and was shocked it said it was 2.18m high - wondering if i had just found a sweet spot i walked back to the barrier to note another 110 in the car park and though i must measure the 110 and havent yet.

im not sure what the point is, other than to measure it unladen yourself. Mike
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m33ufo



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As you say, measuring it is the only option.

18cm is quite a range in height though?
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HardCharger



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Philippines 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
I usually look for parking garages that have at least 2.1m clearance as we measured the highest point at 2.0something m so we rounded up to 2.1m and all is good. Truck is stock in the tires and suspension department.
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X4SKP



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
Defiantly worth knowing your height...I'm at 2080mm on standard suspension but LRX wheels,
so have 20mm clear on a 'typical' 2.1M headroom...

The Aerial 'trick' to judge clearance is a good 'first' measure on approach, I also always look up
through the (closed) sunroof when creeping through, still difficult to resist the temptation to duck... Embarassed

This one is 2.2M so easy...


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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
Has anyone actually measured the difference with and without a full tank of fuel?
Post #511983 8th Mar 2016 12:15pm
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gilarion



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Wales 2007 Defender 90 Other CSW Trident Green
Based on a twelve gallon tank the weight of fuel would be approximately 85 lbs (38.5554 Kilo) as the precise weight of diesel fuel will vary based on temperature and humidity.
I doubt whether this weight would have any serious impact on the height of a defender. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..

http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1
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Cupboard



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Corris Grey
You say that... but I can only get my Defender in my garage if I have someone sit in the back. It makes enough of a difference to get under the lintel.
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Supacat



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Exactly my thinking - it must make a difference where we are only talking about a few mm.
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Grenadier



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gilarion wrote:
Based on a twelve gallon tank the weight of fuel would be approximately 85 lbs (38.5554 Kilo) as the precise weight of diesel fuel will vary based on temperature and humidity.
I doubt whether this weight would have any serious impact on the height of a defender.


What's a gallon? Rolling with laughter

A litre of diesel, (as pointed out by Gilarion) has a variable density, but a very rough average 'weight' is 880g/l.

As such, with a 90 having a 60l tank, that equates to roughly 53Kgs, whereas for a 110 with a 75l tank, it equates to roughly 66kgs. In other words, an average woman in the back of the 90 and man in the back of the 110... Thumbs Up

As far as my 110's height is concerned, yes, 2.1 with the Coopers.... Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey
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miker



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Mine is lifted slightly and has a Hannibal rack. Sits at 2.3m at the highest point. Probably with a full tank, I can't remember!
Post #512028 8th Mar 2016 1:43pm
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gilarion



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Supacat wrote:
Exactly my thinking - it must make a difference where we are only talking about a few mm.


If we are talking a few millimetres, then the question should also be, has anyone measured there vehicle height with tyres that are new or with tyres that have done 12 thousand miles, 20 thousand, 30 thousand miles etc, as reduction in tread depth would also have an impact on height variances. Rolling Eyes

And has anyone measured there vehicle with OEM tyres or aftermarket etc that are inflated to 28, 30, 32, 35, 48 PSI etc etc as this would also have minimal millimetre disparities especially on warm and cold days. Wink

Small measurements categorised as a few millimetres while important are subjective to so many different variables, (the dictionary definition of few is, not many but more than one. So, a few cannot be one, but it can be as low as two or three but not four). Smile

I will get me coat Wink For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..

http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1
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miker



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It's a good point re tyres. New all terrains are what, 13mm deep tread. Ones at the end of their life are more like 3mm tread!

On top of that there's a lot of variance in size between different manufacturers
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Supacat



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Well in the context of the OP's issues with vehicle height and garage access then it's all valid commentary so not sure why you need Rolling Eyes

I mentioned fuel as it would possibly have the biggest passive impact on a daily basis.
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Chocolate



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United Kingdom 2004 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Bonatti Grey
Would you really trust a few mm to a car park sign saying 2.1M
I have had a few friends caught out where the local authority have changed lights/signage in the car park without thinking of the height implications.
One friends roof was damaged by drop down signs, the facility company removed the signs as soon as he informed them. Luckily he had taken photos of them with someone measuring. Smile

Measure your car fully unloaded, then you know where you can get under. 110XS CSW TD5.
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