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NJS22



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Missing Grommets?
Will I went and bought a new 90 Adventure and I must say she is great leather everywhere. Then I noticed this,(see photo) two grommets missing from the snorkel, I phoned my dealer who then looked at his other Adventures in stock (big dealer) and said they are all the same.

You would think when you fork out £43k on a leather clad Defender they could afford two plastic grommets.

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Post #501582 7th Feb 2016 10:59am
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YOLO110



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Pants!

Give 'Mantec' a call.

They make this RAI and will have spares. FOC I am sure too! YOLO... You Only Live Once...
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stanley



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Who signed off the PDI?
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YOLO110



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Someone who is now working on the RRS line! Laughing YOLO... You Only Live Once...
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Supacat



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Shocked

NJS22 wrote:
I phoned my dealer who then looked at his other Adventures in stock (big dealer) and said they are all the same.


Had my main dealer tell me this on several issues - are they trained to give you this vacuous response? Is it right or wrong, is something missing or is there an explanation is what is required.
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rustyboxx



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Had the same with my Mantec. Pop into your local electrical supplier and ask for 20mm grommets used for 13 amp socket back boxes. These should fit a treat. I only have one kicking around otherwise I'd have posted a couple off to you.


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Post #501681 7th Feb 2016 1:43pm
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ericvv



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Re: Missing Grommets?
NJS22 wrote:
Will I went and bought a new 90 Adventure and I must say she is great leather everywhere. Then I noticed this,(see photo) two grommets missing from the snorkel, I phoned my dealer who then looked at his other Adventures in stock (big dealer) and said they are all the same.

You would think when you fork out £43k on a leather clad Defender they could afford two plastic grommets.

Click image to enlarge


Tell your dealer to either get you those, or otherwise get written confirmation from JLR headoffice that these RAI are supposed to come from the factory without these grommets. It is small things, but no reason to accept such dealer answer.
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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Post #501695 7th Feb 2016 2:20pm
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NJS22



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rustyboxx wrote:
Had the same with my Mantec. Pop into your local electrical supplier and ask for 20mm grommets used for 13 amp socket back boxes. These should fit a treat. I only have one kicking around otherwise I'd have posted a couple off to you.


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Cheers Rustyboxx easiest way I expect. 1998 90 50th Anniversary 4.0 V8
2016 90 Adventure
2015 Range Rover Sport
1971 Range Rover 2 Door
Wife won't let me have any more...!!!
Post #501696 7th Feb 2016 2:26pm
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NJS22



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Re: Missing Grommets?
ericvv wrote:
NJS22 wrote:
Will I went and bought a new 90 Adventure and I must say she is great leather everywhere. Then I noticed this,(see photo) two grommets missing from the snorkel, I phoned my dealer who then looked at his other Adventures in stock (big dealer) and said they are all the same.

You would think when you fork out £43k on a leather clad Defender they could afford two plastic grommets.

Click image to enlarge


Tell your dealer to either get you those, or otherwise get written confirmation from JLR headoffice that these RAI are supposed to come from the factory without these grommets. It is small things, but no reason to accept such dealer answer.
Eric


They aren't my normal dealer although I did buy a 90 HT from them last year, it seems the box standard reply.

I will be seeing their sales manager or DP in a couple of weeks when she goes in for waxoiling, nas bumper and tow bar as that is not acceptable. 1998 90 50th Anniversary 4.0 V8
2016 90 Adventure
2015 Range Rover Sport
1971 Range Rover 2 Door
Wife won't let me have any more...!!!
Post #501699 7th Feb 2016 2:31pm
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Swac3



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Doesn't look like they're BS'ing you when they say they're all like that, even the motor show one doesn't appear to be finished off.



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ericvv



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Swac may be right. Checked pictures of a few for sale here in Switzerland, and seems there are no grommets here either. So might well be that it indeed is supposed to be like that. The good news about that is that it gives you a chance to a cheap and easy upgrade. Laughing Thumbs Up
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o
https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I
https://vimeo.com/201482507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw
Post #501713 7th Feb 2016 3:05pm
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NJS22



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Fantastic I can do another mod Rolling with laughter 1998 90 50th Anniversary 4.0 V8
2016 90 Adventure
2015 Range Rover Sport
1971 Range Rover 2 Door
Wife won't let me have any more...!!!
Post #501721 7th Feb 2016 3:20pm
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nosnibod



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The instructions are in this thread here -> http://www.defender2.net/forum/post310098.html

No grommets so I suspect the 'aftermarket modification' will be required... Whistle
I'm still nursing the missing skin and general blood loss from fitting a Safari Snorkel and a Nugget sealed air box over the weekend Rolling with laughter Dave
Green Goddess - 1998 Defender 110 300tdi
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dorsetsmith



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NJS22 wrote:
Fantastic I can do another mod Rolling with laughter
its not mod it enhancement Whistle and 20mm blind grommets CEF will be cheaper than parts from LR Whistle
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Supacat



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Having not looked too closely at the fitting instructions before, I'm even more put off the product - only two lower fixings and you have to drill into the wing for them - yet the gasket and the RAI appear to have holes for 4 fixings?

Earlier versions had 4 fixings and better still they went into the area of the wing exposed when the original cover was removed.
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