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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5878   
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As MOG points out, looks to be part of the property. Go to the Land Registry website and it will tell you.
https://www.gov.uk/search-property-information-land-registry Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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3rd Jan 2016 5:23pm |
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| apt100 Member Since: 05 Mar 2015 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 1547  
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Just a thought... if there is a vehicular ROW wouldn't that be shown on an "official" county maintained map? the map in the OP looks as though the red "shortcut" has been drawn on, which suggests the database of the original source (google maps or whoever) don't list it as a public road. Obviously there must be plenty of errors in maps but it does possibly support the theory that it is private and not part of the public highway?
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3rd Jan 2016 5:47pm |
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| SailingTom Member Since: 19 Nov 2013 Location: ESSEX Posts: 1722
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Still yours unfortunately, even if illegally parked you would still have a percentage of blame. Very rarely in the UK can you get away with shunting or ramming a vehicle! |
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3rd Jan 2016 5:52pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17602 
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Do not ever under any circumstances move someone else's vehicle unless you have their permission , even if it is totally obstructing a public highway, parked without permission on your property, blocking access to or from your property, or is or appears to be dumped (even if burned out, totalled, vandalised etc).
You do not ever have any legal authority to move someone else's vehicle without their specific permission or the authority of a Court order, and to do so, even as little as an inch, is to commit a serious offence. You might get away with it if you can prove that by doing so you've saved a life, but that is mitigating an absolute offence. |
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3rd Jan 2016 9:56pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5068 
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That's not strictly true you can move anything to effect passage on a highway, as long as you only move it far enough to allow passage and you don't do any specific damage. Its usually trees or similar.
As a civilian, I would only do it in extremis though! Mike |
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3rd Jan 2016 11:26pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17602
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Inanimate objects, yes. A motor vehicle, no. You are committing at least one and possibly several offences.
Obstructing a highway is, however, a serious offence, and one which is arrestable without warrant. You must however get a Policeman to deal with it. |
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3rd Jan 2016 11:41pm |
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| mse Member Since: 06 Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5068
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I think you will find you can move a vehicle too - i happen to have experienced it move than 10 times. Like i say, i wouldnt do it outside of work though
Oh you cant do it with people in it and there are a few other conditions Mike |
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4th Jan 2016 12:11am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17602
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I am not at present sure enough of the current situation to disute this (and of course I don't know the line of work you are in), but it certainly contradicts information I was given by the Constabulary not that long ago.
Apart from anything else, there is an obvious issue with insurance now that few standard policies include DOC cover. |
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4th Jan 2016 11:00am |
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| jimbob7 Member Since: 06 Jul 2013 Location: uk Posts: 2055 |
Sorry,but it doesn't look like a public road,in which the public have "no right of access". Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.
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4th Jan 2016 11:54am |
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| Mr Fox Member Since: 10 Sep 2011 Location: green & pleasant land Posts: 1038 
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If it is part of the property, a conversation with the owners of the home will probably find that they are parking their vehicles there in an attempt to stop people using their property to cut the corner. On another forum, perhaps relating to Misubishi pickups, there is quite possibly a thread running which encompasses: "How do I stop people using my property as a rat run"  |
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4th Jan 2016 12:07pm |
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| scotty38 Member Since: 21 May 2011 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 571  
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Probably agree with the above and even if it's not their property they've probably had enough of folk driving on their grass etc. I've had to put sizeable boulders on my verge to stop folk using it as a passing place when the main road is blocked and traffic uses our lane as a shortcut. A blind man on a galloping horse could see my well kept verge is part of my property but most folk see that as a green light to use it as a convenient road extension and don't give a toss about the damage they do.
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4th Jan 2016 12:36pm |
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| Orangesofa Member Since: 10 Oct 2014 Location: Somerset Posts: 214 
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Errr - not true. If the vehicle is on your property the rules change significantly - hence the unregulated clamping/removals that was a huge issue a few years ago (and perhaps still is). The issue with private property and most things associated with occupation thereof or abandoning things on it is that it becomes a civil matter not a criminal one so the Five-O will wash their hands of it very swiftly Wilful obstruction is serious (and criminal) and applies when someone intentionally blocks you in to 'prove a point' for example. Road traffic laws do still apply on private roads if they link two public roads, eg: supermarket carpark with two exits, a large public park with a road network or this very example in the OP. So driving on such roads could see you stuck-on for not wearing a seatbelt for example. Sorry - doesn't really answer the initial question.... Phil Last edited by Orangesofa on 4th Jan 2016 1:12pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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4th Jan 2016 1:07pm |
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| SailingTom Member Since: 19 Nov 2013 Location: ESSEX Posts: 1722
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Like you with work we can legally shunt a parked vehicle if in the way/ parked where access is required. I think you answered it earlier though as an ordinary person wouldn't stand a chance getting away with it unless it somehow caused a life risk. |
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4th Jan 2016 1:09pm |
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| JWL Member Since: 26 Oct 2011 Location: Hereford Posts: 3443 
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Along with mse and Sailing Tom I agree about vehicles can be moved with minimum damage/distance etc after spending a reasonable (depends on how much of a hurry) amount of time to speak to the owner. I have moved vehicles out of farm gateways and field entrances to let us get on with our work. Yes we have made alternative arrangements to get into a field but there are times when that is the only route.
A call to the local police informing them of our intentions will often be met with their OK. It is so tempting though to leave the offending vehicle perched on the hedge or in the middle of the biggest mud hole available. |
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4th Jan 2016 2:02pm |
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