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| Hairysteve Member Since: 15 Jun 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 692   
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So am thinking of using Anderson connector mounted in the engine bay that can be disconnected from the winch and used for the compressor or jumper leads (if and when required) that way I don't need to add a second set of Andersons in the cab thus saving time and money. The anderson connected to the battery end would be permanently mounted to the engine bay using something like this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ANDERSON-DURITE-...QMbATlht4w
Opinions on this approach? Cheers Steve |
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4th Dec 2015 9:07pm |
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| VeeTee Member Since: 06 Mar 2011 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1512 
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Good idea - but if you mount the Anderson in the engine bay anyway then why not make the connections to the starter motor instead of to battery, saves you a length of hefty leads... Cheers, Vincent
1959 Polynorm 1/4 Ton Trailer, Olive Drab Green (sold) 1970 M416 Military Trailer (Camping Trailer Conversion), Epsom Green (sold) 1975 Series III 88 V6, Light Green (sadly sold) 1996 Defender 110 CSW 300 Tdi, Epsom Green (sold) 2000 Freelander 1 TD4 3-drs, Silver (sold) 2006 Freelander 1 TD4 5-drs Facelift Automatic, Tonga Green (sold) MySite |
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5th Dec 2015 7:08am |
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| VeeTee Member Since: 06 Mar 2011 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1512
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Would you mind sharing your pros and cons re routing the cables back to the battery vs to the starting motor?
I will be installing a winch soon so would like to learn here.  Cheers, Vincent
1959 Polynorm 1/4 Ton Trailer, Olive Drab Green (sold) 1970 M416 Military Trailer (Camping Trailer Conversion), Epsom Green (sold) 1975 Series III 88 V6, Light Green (sadly sold) 1996 Defender 110 CSW 300 Tdi, Epsom Green (sold) 2000 Freelander 1 TD4 3-drs, Silver (sold) 2006 Freelander 1 TD4 5-drs Facelift Automatic, Tonga Green (sold) MySite |
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5th Dec 2015 8:36pm |
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| excossack Member Since: 22 Feb 2012 Location: North West Posts: 5873 
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Why not take the Anderson feed of the connectors at the winch end. Mount the Anderson on the bumper/winch and use a plug cover to keep the crap out? 1999 Defender TD5 110
Regards John M0VAZ Econet Station 48 no clock |
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5th Dec 2015 9:40pm |
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| Enid_Puceflange Member Since: 25 Oct 2014 Location: edinburgh Posts: 1179  
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Scroll down here......
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic32390-15.html I fitted Anderson connectors earlier this year My confidence has been writing cheques that my abilities can't cash for years. |
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5th Dec 2015 10:05pm |
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| Alien Member Since: 18 Jan 2015 Location: Bacchus Marsh Posts: 230 
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I would not be recommending using Anderson Plugs on the winch although the idea has merit.
A winch at full pull can draw @500Amps(subject to brand,size,load,etc.) while the largest Anderson I can find is 350Amp. (VeeTee)This is why with seat box mounted batteries we use heavier cables for the winch. Dirty and loose connections is another concern. Having said that, there are a few people using the idea with a portable winch mounted on a frame that slip into receivers. http://www.autoanything.com/winches/77A10094A4120994.aspx
This solution would be easy to do and saves lifting the bonnet each time you want to use your air compressor. With a winch isolator it would also isolate the Anderson plug. Another option, just to add some more confusion to the debate would be remote battery terminals. Something like this, subject to what is available locally to you... https://www.proformancepros.com/cgi-bin/co...TX-406-220 These could be under bonnet mounted and wired to the starter motor. Doing this would save wiring an Anderson plug to your air compressor and jumper leads making them usable if other folk need to borrow them. Another option.. http://www.mudstuff.co.uk/products/exterio...ocker.html Cheers, Kyle. |
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6th Dec 2015 12:36am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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Different vehicle but I have the Anderson SB 175 connectors fitted between my battery and Warn M8000 winch. They were fitted by a vehicle manufacturer as part of the original equipment fit and I have no doubt that they meet the design/input requirements of said winch but I did wonder about the 175 amp rating. I believe that this is a continuous rating rather than the intermittent loadings a winch will generate. Looking at the spec sheet for the SB175 it actually shows in rush currents of over 4,500 amps albeit it for a single second. Finally, through useage over several years I can confirm that the connector has proved faultless with absolutely no signs of wear, damage, melting, etc. |
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6th Dec 2015 12:27pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8582
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Talking about genuine Anderson connectors only!
The Anderson SB 175 is capable of handling 175 amps continuously. It will handle 1,000 amps for 8 seconds and less then 1,000 amps for longer periods all the way down to 175 amps continuously. If you are entering winch challenge events where you are likely to be using the winch at its maximum ability the winch should be wired straight back to the battery with 50+mm2 cable. Time in a winch challenge is of the essence so single line pulls are often used If only for the occasional use for self recovery if the system is understood then 35mm2 cable SB 175 is adequate. Since time is not normally of the essence, double lining can be used which halves the load on the winch and reduces current draw. Time not important so winching can be done in bursts allowing everything to cool off and battery get more charge in. Brendan |
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6th Dec 2015 12:43pm |
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| Hairysteve Member Since: 15 Jun 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 692
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Once again a great subject with solid points raised by all
I have wired the winch in straight to the battery with a manual safety cutout switch http://www.goodwinch.com/shop/electrical/s...h-systems/ at the passenger seat box and will be fitting in a SB 175 in the engine bay thus allowing easy access. Regards, Steve |
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6th Dec 2015 2:50pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8582
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Get and fit a red rubber dust cap and the black pvc sleeve. Will keep vast majority of extraneous material away from the contacts.
Brendan |
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6th Dec 2015 3:13pm |
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| Alien Member Since: 18 Jan 2015 Location: Bacchus Marsh Posts: 230
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Thanks for the feed back. It is always good to hear of what happens in the real world. As Leeds hinted, the figures quoted are for genuine Anderson plugs, aftermarket copies are inferior in lots of ways. Cheers, Kyle. |
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8th Dec 2015 2:43am |
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| dave18 Member Since: 11 Jul 2015 Location: Gorleston, Great Yarmouth Posts: 497 
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My 2P, Im doing similar. However Im hard wiring the winch with 50mm2 cable to battery. Then running 35mm2 cable to Front and Rear 175 Anderson Connectors , Both of these are using separate MEGA fuses and also running through solenoids so when not in use they are dead so nothing can be damaged in an accident / scrot attack lol.
I found a company called Toberry Connectors to be the best for the Anderson stuff. http://www.torberry.co.uk |
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8th Dec 2015 9:02am |
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| mikeh501 Member Since: 07 Jan 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1142
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i went through all the same thought processes when doing my install and eventually went with a 350a continuous rated setup of cabling and isolator. I also have a anderson connector on the pass seat box for the purposes of jump starting and this is setup for a rating of approx 150a.
One thing I regularly see on some forum posts is using weak 50-75a split charge VSR's and then putting a winch in their which effectively will pull much more through the VSR. |
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8th Dec 2015 10:05am |
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| VeeTee Member Since: 06 Mar 2011 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1512
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When installing my winch soon, I'd planned to run a thick cable from the starter to an isolator switch in this Mudstuff Wingbox (which I already have installed), and from there to the winch on the front bumber. Any opinions on this? Cheers, Vincent 1959 Polynorm 1/4 Ton Trailer, Olive Drab Green (sold) 1970 M416 Military Trailer (Camping Trailer Conversion), Epsom Green (sold) 1975 Series III 88 V6, Light Green (sadly sold) 1996 Defender 110 CSW 300 Tdi, Epsom Green (sold) 2000 Freelander 1 TD4 3-drs, Silver (sold) 2006 Freelander 1 TD4 5-drs Facelift Automatic, Tonga Green (sold) MySite |
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8th Dec 2015 10:17am |
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