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The Zee



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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Indus Silver
Newbie Question - Window rubbers/seals 110
2014, 110 2.2 Puma : How are the front and rear window seals (outer) removed and subsequently refitted?

I’ve looked at the fronts, and the window retracts almost fully into the door so I assume fronts are the easy one? But the rear windows still have about 5cm or more of glass above the seal even when it’s fully down? Confused

All four seals have started to bubble under the rubber, I assume this is the steel reinforcement going rotten. Sad Zaid-M
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Post #832121 19th May 2020 11:18pm
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izack98



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Have a look at this video. Not sure exactly which seals you're referring to but Mike covers most of the removal in this video.
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Post #832125 20th May 2020 1:05am
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donmacn



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From your description I think you're talking about either the vertical window channels that the moving glass slides up and down in, or the 'waist' seal, which runs horizontally between the door and the glass?

The waist seals are simple enough, you would just lever them upwards using some sort of non-scratching nylon or plastic tool, and then tap on the new ones. If it's waist seals, use genuine. Don't even think of pattern parts for door seals.

I can have differing views on the genuine vs pattern parts debate, but for door seals my experience says genuine every time.

If it's the vertical channels, I'm afraid that's much more involved and complicated. Means effectively taking the door apart - door card off, window lifting mechanism off, window out, replace channels.... Nothing especially 'difficult' but not one of my favourite jobs.

A picture would help Thumbs Up Donald

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in the past..
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Post #832157 20th May 2020 10:16am
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The Zee



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As requested, a quick photo of the seal I am describing : it's the horizontal seal at the bottom of the window.


Click image to enlarge
 Zaid-M
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Post #832175 20th May 2020 12:23pm
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donmacn



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Good stuff - yep, that's the outer waist seal.

There's not much involved in changing them over - just squeezing something non-scratching underneath it, and prising it off the door, and then working along the seal. Once enough of it has come up, then you'll be able to get a hold of it, and pull the rest away.

Putting a new on one is just a question of lining it up and pressing it on.

That said, is that one of the ones you're concerned about? I can't see much bubbling there to warrant a changeover. There's a lot of life left in that yet in my opinion. I wouldn't be rushing to change that personally. Donald

1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong
(The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html )
2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8

in the past..
RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi
1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box
1993 Discovery 300Tdi

not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper...
Post #832178 20th May 2020 12:28pm
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The Zee



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Thanks for that info Donmacn. Thumbs Up
That seal is as you say is OK, but oddly the one on the opposite door is a lot worse.

It seems the waist seals on the drivers side are a lot worse than those on the passanger side, - Just plain weird Shocked Zaid-M
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Post #832182 20th May 2020 12:47pm
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